Truly disturbing story from Texas A&M

[T. J.]

I'm not one bit surprised by it though.

Houston Press Link (http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-01-24/news/rotten-to-the-corps-a-question-of-justice-at-texas-a-m/)

[wickerbill]

Doesn't surprise me either. That whole university and their alumni are the closest thing you'll find to a cult in a college.

[WyomingOSUAlum]

Can a student be suspended by a public university for an off-campus incident in Stillwater?

(I truly don't know the answer to that question.)

I'm not talking about getting kicked off the football team or having your scholarship revoked. I'm talking about getting expelled for off-campus behavior. Do we do that?

[barryrules]

Good question Wyoming. I'm not sure of that either. However, arent' the corp guys on scholarship or some sort of offical group for campus? If so, I would think they would have a code of conduct clause and could be expelled for things like this.

[AnniePokely]

That is crazy stuff.. aTm is a bunch of whack jobs.

[Lewis the Pike]

Can a student be suspended by a public university for an off-campus incident in Stillwater?

(I truly don't know the answer to that question.)

I'm not talking about getting kicked off the football team or having your scholarship revoked. I'm talking about getting expelled for off-campus behavior. Do we do that?

If it's a school sponsored event or club (like the Corp of Cadets)...possibly, but I think it's unjust. Not trying to glorify what they do. Just don't like over-reaching authorities.

I believe it depends on what is in the code of conduct they signed when they enrolled and/or joined the club.

[WyomingOSUAlum]

Just don't like over-reaching authorities.



Agreed.

[bigbadbob]

Why have they not filed a civil suit?

[legelegel]

Why have they not filed a civil suit?

Give the injured party a little more time. :)

[legelegel]

During my Army ROTC training at OSU and later when I was on active duty, I had the opportunity to meet some of the young officers that Texas A&M produced in the late 1960's. They were rock solid people and good officers back then. I have no reason to believe that most still are.

I am sure that there are former A&M Cadets that are now fighting along side former OSU ROTC Cadets in Iraq and elsewhere . I will not collectively call any of these men and women any disparaging name. There are certainly goofballs and mean spirited individuals in any large organization.

The Corps of Cadets, or simply The Corps) is a student military organization at Texas A&M University. Approximately 39 percent of the members of the Cadet Corps receive classroom training and receive a commission in the United States Armed Forces upon graduation.

Under federal law, Texas A&M University, along with five other U.S. colleges, is classified as a senior military college. As such, Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) courses and training are mandatory for the first two years as a cadet, but are optional for junior and senior year cadets. Juniors and seniors who do not have military contracts to receive commissions, but who wish to remain members of the Cadet Corps, are classified as "Drill & Ceremonies" (D&C) cadets.

Except for the service academies, the Corps, in conjunction with its ROTC affiliates and the Department of Military Science at Texas A&M University, produces more military officers than any other school in the United States.

Over 2,200 students, including over 160 women are members of the Corps, and, although this is only a small percentage of the overall student population, the Corps remains a highly visible presence on campus, a reminder of the school's origins as an all-male military college.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_A&M_University_Corps_of_Cadets

[CowboyJD]

Can a student be suspended by a public university for an off-campus incident in Stillwater?

(I truly don't know the answer to that question.)

I'm not talking about getting kicked off the football team or having your scholarship revoked. I'm talking about getting expelled for off-campus behavior. Do we do that?

Sure they can with proper administrative due process requirements being met.

For instance, someone is convicted for pick your serious felony offense for which someone was serving a suspended sentence so wasn't in jail.

There would be a procedural due process question of whether proper administrative procedures (hearing, opportunity to present the other side of the story, etc.). There would also be a substantive due process question, but (because criminal/misconduct status) the University would only have to show a rational connection between the disciplinary decision and the off-campus conduct.

[BigBadBen]

Im sure that if the Univeristy Administration felt that because of an off campus incident, a particular student was a threat to other students & staff, they very well could give him/her the boot.

[WyomingOSUAlum]

Ohhhhh. Thanks, guys!

[osujane]

What a sad and scary story. :mad:

[Lewis the Pike]

Give the injured party a little more time. :)

Give Bobby a little more time to contact them...:D:D

[bigbadbob]

Sounds like a winner tome...unfortunately I am in Playa Del Carmen this week...