Stop asking about Obama's birth certificate!

[GoPokes83]

Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate real
By JAYMES SONG, Associated Press Writer Jaymes Song, Associated Press Writer Tue Jul 28, 1:54 am ET

HONOLULU – State officials in Hawaii on Monday said they have once again checked and confirmed that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, and therefore meets a key constitutional requirement for being president.

They hoped to stem a recent surge in the number of inquiries about Obama's birthplace.

"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."

So-called "birthers" — who claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States — have grown more vocal recently on blogs and television news shows.

Fukino issued a similar press release Oct. 31, but was prompted to speak out again because of the renewed attention on Obama's beginnings. Hawaii's Health Department has been flooded in recent weeks with questions from individuals and several national TV news networks asking for proof that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

"They just keep asking over and over and over again," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

The Constitution states that a person must be a "natural-born citizen" to be eligible for the presidency. Birthers contend that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, and many say he was actually born in Kenya, his father's homeland. They've challenged his citizenship in court.

One widely circulated YouTube clip of a town hall meeting showed a Republican congressman getting booed for saying Obama is a citizen. Talk show host Rush Limbaugh and CNN's Lou Dobbs have also raised the issue, and 10 Republican members of Congress co-sponsored a bill that would require future presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate.

However, it appears Congress has moved on and has accepted Obama's island birthplace. The U.S. House on Monday unanimously approved a resolution recognizing and celebrating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii becoming the 50th state. A clause was included that reads: "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961."

State law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

However, Obama's birth certificate along with birth notices from the two Honolulu newspapers were brought forward even before he took office. But that's done nothing to shake the belief by many Obama critics that the president was born abroad.

[Vulgar Display of Orange]

There are a small percentage of people who still believe that the earth is flat as well.

[GoPokes83]

There are a small percentage of people who still believe that the earth is flat as well.

You sayin' it's not?!!!!!! Damn Obama!

[Vulgar Display of Orange]

It's the opposite of whatever Obama thinks.

[wood911]

I think the argument comes up because he has a "Certificate of Live Birth" as opposed to a "Birth Certificate" and some people don't know when to quit. Legally, I'm not sure what that means but it would be virtually impossible to prove either way. People need to move on. It serves more as a distraction to me. His admin is doing enough there is plenty to attack him on without making stuff up.

[GoPokes83]

I think the argument comes up because he has a "Certificate of Live Birth" as opposed to a "Birth Certificate" and some people don't know when to quit. Legally, I'm not sure what that means but it would be virtually impossible to prove either way. People need to move on. It serves more as a distraction to me. His admin is doing enough there is plenty to attack him on without making stuff up.

Mine says the same thing. I guess a "birth certificate" would / could include stillborns as well.

You're right Wood, there are plenty of real faults to go around.

[wickerbill]

And of course the local village idiot, Jim Inhofe, is hopping on the bandwagon too.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=16&articleid=20090728_16_A1_Obamas872273

[Vulgar Display of Orange]

Why do you people keep voting for him?
Who is next? Billy Sims? Sally Kern?

[wood911]

Why do you people keep voting for him?
Who is next? Billy Sims? Sally Kern?
To my shame, I voted for him in order to keep the Democratic majority as small as possible. Stupid resistance is better than no resistance. Minnesota cancelled my vote out, though, by electing Al Franken. We now have stupid no resistance.:stupe:

[CaliforniaCowboy]

There are a small percentage of people who still believe that the earth is flat as well.


Standing in Stillwater, there is every reason to believe it is so.

dang sure most of Oklahoma is flat anyway.

[legelegel]

Driving West out of Salina, Kan. will make you think the earth is pretty damn flat.

[legelegel]

Does anyone have copies of the newspaper articles announcing President B.O. II's birth?


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3152/2969578635_d7b699242c.jpg?v=0

[wickerbill]

Does anyone have copies of the newspaper articles announcing President B.O. II's birth?


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3152/2969578635_d7b699242c.jpg?v=0

Click on the Tulsa World article I linked to and there is an image.

[legelegel]

I'm sorry, but the earth is flat in some places. It is obvious that it takes very little other than a statement of the parents' residency in the State of Hawaii to get a birth certificate.

Was he born in a hospital on the Hawiian Islands?

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9209/birthannouncements.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/i/birthannouncements.jpg/)


Many people remain unaware a child does not even have to be born in Hawaii to receive a Certification of Live Birth, ...

Hawaiian law specifically allows "an adult or the legal parents of a minor child" to apply to the health department and, upon unspecified proof, be given the birth document. (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/vol06_ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.HTM)

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child. (b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104678

[bleedorange]

Was he born in a hospital on the Hawiian Islands?

He was born in a manger, in Bethlehem.

[legelegel]

He was born in a manger, in Bethlehem.

Then for God's Sake, let's make him a US citizen.

[snuffy]

I'm sorry, but the earth is flat in some places. It is obvious that it takes very little other than a statement of the parents' residency in the State of Hawaii to get a birth certificate.

Was he born in a hospital on the Hawiian Islands?

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9209/birthannouncements.jpg (http://img166.imageshack.us/i/birthannouncements.jpg/)

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104678

Correct me if I misunderstood what this said, but even he was born in Kenya, he is still a US citizen as long as his parents claimed Hawaii as their legal residence a year before he was born.
If this correct why are there still questions? as I saw someone else point out, do you enough to gripe about concerning Obama yet?

[legelegel]

Correct me if I misunderstood what this said, but even he was born in Kenya, he is still a US citizen as long as his parents claimed Hawaii as their legal residence a year before he was born.
If this correct why are there still questions? as I saw someone else point out, do you enough to gripe about concerning Obama yet?

It just says how you can get a Hawaiian birth certificate if your parents have been a resident of that state long enough, regardless where the child was born.

There are a lot of people born outside of the USA that become citizens of the USA at birth, but that does not automatically make them eligible to become President of the United States.

The law may be a bit antiquated and has been in need of interpretation at times, but we do still have a law protecting us from ever having a foreign national dictate to us from the highest office in the land.

[wickerbill]

Get out the tinfoil hats. Legel has jumped on board the crazy wagon with Inhofe.

[snuffy]

Get out the tinfoil hats. Legel has jumped on board the crazy wagon with Inhofe.

Actually he is the first person I have heard explain the issue, with the law to back it up that is not wearing a tin foil hat or using fear or scorne as a weapon. What it does not tell us is where Obama was born, and I have a hard time believing this could go on for this long with the answer being the same if he were born anywhere but in the USA.

[legelegel]

Get out the tinfoil hats. Legel has jumped on board the crazy wagon with Inhofe.

Yes, I guess my mother lied to me about being born in Oklahoma. It must have been in Missouri.

My birth certificate predates Obama's by many years, but it states exactly on which small piece of land I was born, the name of the hospital, and has my mother's and the doctor's signature on it.

[GoPokes83]

I can't imagine his parents being in Nigeria and being able to get birth announcements in both local papers back in Hawaii within a couple of days after his birth. I doubt they were thinking about a presidential campaign conspiracy the day he was born.

[snuffy]

Yes, I guess my mother lied to me about being born in Oklahoma. It must have been in Missouri.

My birth certificate predates Obama's by many years, but it states exactly on which small piece of land I was born, the name of the hospital, and has my mother's and the doctor's signature on it.

Pennsylvania's birth certificate has so little information on concerning the person born that several states, including Oklahoma will not accept them as proof of identity. Different stats have different standards. a buddy of mine has to use his passport if he needs to renew his drivers licenses or needs a second picture ID.

[legelegel]

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaCOLB.htm

[CaliforniaCowboy]

okay, let's talk about the Medrassa that he attended... ;)

[wickerbill]

Good thing the other presidential nominee last year was born in Panama. That's in the US, right? ;)

[legelegel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGWcD5OHm08&feature=related

[legelegel]

Oct. 10, 2008
...his grandmother states that she was present at the birth, in Kenya. So what is the truth?

One explanation is that Obama's mother Ann Dunham, flew to Kenya in 1961 with Obama's father to meet his family. According to some news reports (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBF_enIL275IL275&q=Obama%27s+family+did+not+take+to+Stanley+Ann+Dun ham+Obama+very+well%2c+because+she+was+white%2c+ac cording+to+Sarah+Obama%2e+Shortly+after+she+arrive d+in+Kenya+Stanley+Ann+decided+to+return+to+Hawaii +because+she+later+said%2c+she+did+not+like+how+Mu slim+men+treated+their+wives+in+Kenya%2e+However%2 c+because+she+was+near+term+the+airline+would+not+ let+her+fly+until+after+the+birth+of+her+baby%2e+O bama%27s+grandmother+said+the+baby%e2%80%94Barack+ Hussein+Obama%2c+Jr%2e%e2%80%94was+born+in+Kenya+a nd+that+shortly+after+he+was+born%2c+Stanley+Ann+r eturned+to+Hawaii%2e%22+site:dailypaul%2ecom), Ann Dunham, was not accepted well by her husband's family because she was white:

"Obama's family did not take to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama very well, because she was white, according to Sarah Obama. Shortly after she arrived in Kenya Stanley Ann decided to return to Hawaii because she later said, she did not like how Muslim men treated their wives in Kenya. However, because she was near term the airline would not let her fly until after the birth of her baby. Obama's grandmother said the baby—Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.—was born in Kenya and that shortly after he was born, Stanley Ann returned to Hawaii."

However, by the time she wanted to leave Kenya, it was during the late stages of her pregnancy. She was not able to board a plane because the airlines wouldn't allow women so close to birth to fly. It is instead believed, that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya as his grandmother apparently stated. Then, after he was born, his mother returned with him to Hawaii where his birth was REGISTERED on or about August 8th, 1961, in the public records office in Hawaii.

There is also a discrepancy in what hospital Barack Hussein Obama was born in, even if he was born in Hawaii. Reports by his own sister in two separate interviews state that he was born at two different hospitals (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=active&rlz=1T4ADBF_enIL275IL275&q=%22he+was+born+at+two+separate+hospitals--Kapiolani+Hospital+and+Queens+Hospital--in+Honolulu%2C%22+site%3Aglobalresearch.ca&btnG=Search) -- Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu.

The Times Herald even reports (http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20089295): "the senator's grandmother, brother and sister, who live in Kenya, believe they were present during Obama's birth in the African country." Here, the Times Herald uses the word that his family 'believe' he was born in Kenya (perhaps to avoid possible law suits by Obama's Truth Squad?).
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074

July 12, 2009
Despite an in-depth search, the name of any physician or medical attendant who might have helped deliver the baby Barack Obama at Honolulu's Kapi'olani Hospital in 1961 remains shrouded in mystery.

The White House, despite repeated requests from WND last week, failed to provide any details on President Obama's birth, including the name of the attending physician. It also ignored a request that it release Obama's long-form birth certificate or obtain from the president the required permission for official records on his birth to be released by the hospitals and government agencies that may possess such information.

The certification of live birth short-form document Obama's presidential campaign produced during the 2008 election fails to provide any birth details, mentioning neither the hospital where the president was allegedly born nor the physician who attended the birth.

A thorough search of Obama's campaign websites, White House websites and the voluminous discussion devoted to his birth also failed to produce any information regarding the attending physician.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103796

[wood911]

Good thing the other presidential nominee last year was born in Panama. That's in the US, right? ;)
Yes, that's a small town in southeastern Oklahoma just south of Spiro.
I believe if it could have been proven without any doubt, one way or the other it already would have been. McCain sent people to verify this last year.

[wickerbill]

You could have the OB and nurses present for his birth confirm it was in Hawaii, get medical records from the hospital, see the original birth certificate paperwork and some of these idiots would still be running around claiming he was born in Africa. There really is no way to satisfy the fringe idiots. You can lump them in with the people who claim the moon landing was fake and think there was a CIA pilot flying the planes into the WTC as far as I'm concerned.

[CaliforniaCowboy]

Good thing the other presidential nominee last year was born in Panama. That's in the US, right? ;)

He was born on a US base, to two US citizens, for which there is an allowance.

Just like being born to a military family stationed in Germany or any other US foreign base.

[Vulgar Display of Orange]

Where is John McCain's birth certificate? I think he's from one of the islands.

[jaredddick]

Good thing the other presidential nominee last year was born in Panama. That's in the US, right? ;)

John McCain Sr. Served in WWI. Admiral during WWII. Pioneer of aircraft carrier operations. Died 4 days after the surrender of Japan due to stress from combat.

John McCain Jr. Full Admiral. Served from 1940-1970 including WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. Commander in Chief of Pacific Command during Vietnam.

John McCain III. Born Coco Solo Naval Air Station, Panama 1936. American Fighter Pilot. War Hero. POW for 5 1/2 years.

I am sure we everyone is on the same page when they question a person's patriotism...