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snuffy
07-12-2009, 09:33 PM
Study recommends total ban on smoking for soldiers
From Chris Lawrence
CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/12/mil...ban/index.html


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- You've seen the iconic picture of a soldier with a cigarette dangling from his mouth, but that could soon be a thing of the past.
The Pentagon is considering a ban on the sale and use of tobacco in the military.

The Pentagon is considering a ban on the sale and use of tobacco in the military.

A new study commissioned by the Pentagon and the Department of Veterans Affairs recommends a complete ban on tobacco, which would end tobacco sales on military bases and prohibit smoking by anyone in uniform, not even combat troops in the thick of battle.

According to the study, tobacco use impairs military readiness in the short term. Over the long term, it can cause serious health problems, including lung cancer and cardiovascular disease. The study also says smokeless tobacco use can lead to oral and pancreatic cancer.

The Defense Department's top health officials are studying the report's suggestions and will make recommendations to the Pentagon's policy team and Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

The study recommends phasing out tobacco products such as cigarettes and cigars over a five- to 10-year period.

However, the suggested ban does not sit well with many in uniform, including retired Gen. Russel Honore, best known for coordinating military relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina-affected areas with an ever-present stogie. He said soldiers at war need to puff.

"When you're tired and you've been going days on end with minimum sleep, and you are not getting the proper meals on time, that hit of tobacco can make a difference," said Honore, who was in charge of the Army's training programs before he retired.

Other soldiers questioned whether this was a good time to stamp out smoking, given the Army's concern with a high suicide rate.

"For some, unfortunately, they feel that smoking is their stress relief. Well if you take it away, what is the replacement?" said Sgt. 1st Class Gary Johnson.

The Pentagon supports the goal of a tobacco-free military, said spokeswoman Cynthia Smith.

"However, achieving that goal will depend on coincident reductions of tobacco use in the civilian population," she said.

Dr. Ken Kizer, the author of the study, found that civilians don't smoke as much as soldiers. One in three active duty soldiers smoke, he said, adding that among the general population, that number is less than one in five.

The Pentagon banned smoking in buildings on bases years ago. It has counselors on call to help service members quit. But while local governments have heavily taxed tobacco, the commissaries often sell it at deeply discounted prices.

"The military sends very mixed signals," Kizer said. "This is what's confusing to people."

The study found that profits from those tobacco sales -- $80 million to $90 million -- often pay for recreation and family programs on base

legelegel
07-12-2009, 10:13 PM
My Dad got hooked on smoking when he was in the Army Air Corp during WWII. Cigarettes were like candy for them. They were part of their C-Rations.

Erick
07-13-2009, 09:08 AM
This is bull spit in my opinion. They volunteered to serve, why should they have this privilege taken away from them when us the civilians can smoke all we want? It's not like they are out of shape or are physically incapable. I don't support smoking, but the government certainly doesn't have the right to tell them if they can smoke or not.

legelegel
07-13-2009, 09:15 AM
I agree. Warn them and let them make the decision. I'm tired of the government thinking they have to make all our decisions for us. This is just another example of the so-called elite thinking they know what's best.

Soon they will be telling us what brand of tooth paste is best for us.

AnniePokely
07-13-2009, 10:24 AM
Goverment is getting out of control.

Lewis the Pike
07-13-2009, 10:29 AM
This is bull spit in my opinion. They volunteered to serve, why should they have this privilege taken away from them when us the civilians can smoke all we want? It's not like they are out of shape or are physically incapable. I don't support smoking, but the government certainly doesn't have the right to tell them if they can smoke or not.

+1

PokesFanatic
07-13-2009, 10:29 AM
So you can go and lay your life down for your country, but you can't have a smoke to calm your nerves or keep you aware. Unbelievable.

wood911
07-13-2009, 10:30 AM
I agree. Warn them and let them make the decision. I'm tired of the government thinking they have to make all our decisions for us. This is just another example of the so-called elite thinking they know what's best.

Soon they will be telling us what brand of tooth paste is best for us.
Ipana toothpaste. Brusha, brusha, brusha.
How would you like to be in the military when they give a bunch of people big guns then take away their drug of choice(nicotine)?:biggrin: Imagine that many people going thru withdrawals att the same time.:furious3:

Erick
07-13-2009, 10:36 AM
So you can go and lay your life down for your country, but you can't have a smoke to calm your nerves or keep you aware. Unbelievable.

and the Commander and Chief can smoke all he wants.

legelegel
07-13-2009, 11:14 AM
and the Commander and Chief can smoke all he wants.

Didn't you hear? The people that make our laws are above those laws.

Lewis the Pike
07-13-2009, 11:33 AM
If we are concerned about their health, perhaps only fighting nessecary wars would also be helpful.

snuffy
07-16-2009, 07:09 AM
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The defense secretary will not ban smoking by troops in war zones despite a recommendation to do so by a Pentagon-commissioned study.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/15/us.military.smoking/index.html


Defense Secretary Robert Gates says he does not want to compound stress in combat zones by banning smoking.

Secretary Robert Gates' decision stems from concern about the stress troops face, said his spokesman.

"We are fighting two wars right now, using a force that we are demanding more of than we ever have before. They are under enormous stress and strain, and the secretary does not want to compound that stress by taking away from them one of the few outlets they have to relieve that stress," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said Wednesday.

A new study commissioned by the Pentagon and the Department of Veterans Affairs recommends a complete ban on tobacco, which would end tobacco sales on military bases and prohibit smoking by anyone in uniform -- including combat troops in the thick of battle.

According to the study, tobacco use impairs military readiness in the short term. Over the long term, it can cause serious health problems, including lung cancer and cardiovascular disease. The study also says smokeless tobacco use can lead to oral and pancreatic cancer.

Morrell said that Gates has not seen the report and will consider the recommendations to move towards a goal of a smoke-free military.

"There may be things we can do to try to move towards that goal. But he has been very clear to me, up front, that one of the things he is not prepared to do is to restrict the use of tobacco products in combat zones," Morrell said.

Anti-smoking activist Richard Daynard said Gates' decision was logical. But he predicted that, as smoking is banned on military bases outside combat zones, "then the problem over time will resolve itself, even in combat zones."

The founder of the Tobacco Products Liability Project likened the situation to that which prevailed during the 1980s, when smoking aboard U.S. commercial airlines was banned.

"There was an exception for the cockpit, at least on some airlines, on the theory that you probably don't want your pilot, if he's hooked on nicotine, to be cold-turkey while he's trying to navigate your plane."

But, he said, the exception has been phased out.