You gotta love this

[cactusjack]

http://media.kansas.com/smedia/2009/03/20/00/757NCAA_Morgan_St_Oklahoma_Basketball.sff.slidesho w_main.prod_affiliate.80.jpg

:ousucksnana::stupid:

[FloridaPoke]

Oh how I long for the days when the PC crowd wouldn't hammer me for a response to this picture.

[OKState918]

Oh how I long for the days when the PC crowd wouldn't hammer me for a response to this picture.

Blake Griffin is the kind of player Barack Obama alludes to after playing pick-up games on the White House basketball court.

[AnniePokely]

Why do you hate retarded people?

[MemphisPoke]

Cactus:

Priceless. Absolutely Priceless.


:ousucksnana::ousucksnana:

[JimBob]

Oh how I long for the days when the PC crowd wouldn't hammer me for a response to this picture.

Screw 'em, go ahead and let 'er rip!:officechair:

[Chief-Poke]

Monkey man trys on a hoops hat.

He then questions "is the world really this big?"

[SeaOfOrange]

"My mama told me they were my magic shoes."

[Lewis the Pike]

http://media.kansas.com/smedia/2009/03/20/00/757NCAA_Morgan_St_Oklahoma_Basketball.sff.slidesho w_main.prod_affiliate.80.jpg

:ousucksnana::stupid:

Kids can you find the three round things with air inside??

[AnniePokely]

Someone PLEASE photoshop that picture! Replace the ball and net with a palm tree and a banana!

[okiedado]

...here you go...

[AnniePokely]

http://www.ostatesports.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=134&d=1237680464


OMG...ROLLING OVER HERE! HAHAHAHAHA!


Good Job!!!

[BigBadBen]

Monkey Dust

[OSUchris]

Not to be a buzz-kill, but am I the only one bothered by this thread??

[AnniePokely]

Not to be a buzz-kill, but am I the only one bothered by this thread??


Maybe.

What's bothering you?

[OSUchris]

Maybe.

What's bothering you?

I don't know... making monkey jokes about a half-black 20 year old. Who seems to be a pretty good kid except for his college choice. Maybe this needs to be moved to the NS board.

[OSUFan]

Did you see the missing link hang onto the rim today and not get a technical? Maybe it was because he scratched under his arm and yelled out "ooooo... oooooooo!"

[AnniePokely]

I don't know... making monkey jokes about a half-black 20 year old. Who seems to be a pretty good kid except for his college choice. Maybe this needs to be moved to the NS board.

Why is the "half black" card even being played?

[okiedado]

hey, i didn't make this image to make fun of a half black 20yr old kid...the expression on his face is humorous and he plays for ou.

[OSUchris]

I'm just saying... Do you think referring to a black person (half or otherwise) as a monkey is good pub for ostatesports.com? Regardless of how ridiculous this picture looks? How do you think this would look in a headline? 'OSU FAN'S CALL BLAKE GRIFFIN A MONKEY!!!'. It's your board not mine though...

[AnniePokely]

It's obvious why we're laughing at the picture, and it has nothing to do with him being a "half black" kid.

Good freakin grief..

[OSUFan]

I don't know... making monkey jokes about a half-black 20 year old. Who seems to be a pretty good kid except for his college choice. Maybe this needs to be moved to the NS board.

Geez!!! It doesn't hurt the butthole player at all. Screw you if you get upset over this thread.

[okiedado]

ah, osu means oregon state...

[OSUchris]

No my degree is from the real OSU. If you guys don't see a problem here then wow!!!

[okiedado]

everybody who plays for ou is a monkey

[OSUchris]

No my degree is from the real OSU. If you guys don't see a problem here then wow!!!

Although my son has turned into a Beaver fan ( :( ) since we moved here.

[okiedado]

...hhmmm...

[OSUchris]

It's obvious why we're laughing at the picture, and it has nothing to do with him being a "half black" kid.

Geez.

You're right it is a funny picture... So make a joke like Matt did, don't bring out the monkey jokes though.

[AnniePokely]

Mountains out of molehills if you ask me.. If it bothers you so much, don't read it anymore. Simple solution.

[OSUchris]

Mountains out of molehills if you ask me.. If it bothers you so much, don't read it anymore. Simple solution.

Rock on... Maybe we can start calling him by other names soon... Way to be classy Poke fans...

[BigBadBen]

I think it has a whole heck of a lot more to do with the contortion and look on his face than it does his skin color.


This whole stinking overly sensitive PC crap is getting out of control.




Why is it offensive to say it about a guy who is half black, but photos like below are okay because he is white?



http://www.webbusiness.no/webprivat/usa/upfiles/bush_monkey.jpg








Dont make a joke about a person of color because it makes you racist.
But bagging on white people is perfectly acceptable.

Dont upset the muslims or Buhdists or Jews, etc.....
But attack Christianity all you want, its okay.




This double standard society we live in is pathetic.

[JimBob]

I like Sock Monkeys.:cool-smiley-027:

[AnniePokely]

Why did you ask me if you were black? (you since deleted the thread) I don't know you, and It doesn't matter to me if you're black, white, green, purple. I don't see colors.


I see a funny picture though.

[AnniePokely]

Rock on... Maybe we can start calling him by other names soon... Way to be classy Poke fans...


Any you have in mind?

[MemphisPoke]

Wow !!!

This went south in a hurry.

Chill folks!




:cool-smiley-027:

[OSUFan]

Why are you asking me if you're black? I don't know you, and It doesn't matter to me if you're black, white, green, purple. I don't see colors.

Heck, I do! I see orange and black and cheer! I see crimson and cream and boo!!!

[AnniePokely]

Wow !!!

This went south in a hurry.

Chill folks!




:cool-smiley-027:

I only see one person in this thread that needs to chill.

[okiedado]

...here is one of bob stoops with bananas...that's funny too.

[pistolpete2002]

Man guys, you really need to be more sensative to monkeys and quit insulting them by calling an uo player that!!!!!!!

Now, W. does resemble a primate in a couple of those pics!!!

[OSUchris]

Chris, why did you delete your thread asking me "Am I black"..? And what was it supposed to mean?


Quit making this a racist thread. It's flat out silly as all get out. Not a soul here made racial jokes. He looks like grape ape in that picture with his facial expression. Period.

FLAT OUT... I am saying it is racist to call a black person a monkey. It is just about 1 step above using the n-word. But I guess that is too PC too. Like I said, this is a goofy pic of Griffin, but we as Pokes can do much better than this. As I said before maybe this needs to be moved to the NS board, because it is rapidly digressing...

[okiedado]

...i never called that kid a monkey, nor did i insuate that. is anyone offended by the photo of stoops with bananas?

[AnniePokely]

YOU are making it go downhill. YOU. Nobody else.


This was NOT INTENDED as a racial thread, and I'm FLAT OUT getting pissed off that you are trying to make me out as a racist. I don't give a rats butt what color he is, the picture is FUNNY. PERIOD

[OSUchris]

OK, nevermind. Later guys...

[okiedado]

adios, amigo

[AnniePokely]

See ya.

[pistolpete2002]

FLAT OUT... I am saying it is racist to call a black person a monkey. It is just about 1 step above using the n-word. But I guess that is too PC too. Like I said, this is a goofy pic of Griffin, but we as Pokes can do much better than this. As I said before maybe this needs to be moved to the NS board, because it is rapidly digressing...

According to people who believe in evolution, we all "evolved" from monkeys. So wouldn't that make it equally offensive to call a white person a monkey??

[AnniePokely]

Dado, you did nothing wrong. Don't sweat it.

Knock yourself out Chris. It appears you have a chip on your shoulder, b/c you're making something out of nothing.


You won't change my opinion on the topic, and you're argument has been the same thing over and over. I don't think anyone played the race card in this thread. You've called me a racist and i don't appreciate it.

[AnniePokely]

And I will not close this thread over one user.

[OSUchris]

Annie, I have PM'd you on this... So I am done w/ this thread...

GO POKES...

[OSUFan]

Annie, I have PM'd you on this... So I am done w/ this thread...

GO POKES...

So you would rather call people racist and then run. Sounds about right.

Just for the record, I will call an ou player or coach whatever sounds demeaning BECAUSE they are from ou and I hate ou, but NOT BECAUSE of their race or religion.

[OSUchris]

So you would rather call people racist and then run. Sounds about right.

Just for the record, I will call an ou player or coach whatever sounds demeaning BECAUSE they are from ou and I hate ou, but NOT BECAUSE of their race or religion.

I wasn't running...

I would just rather take this offline rather than to continue this online.

BG is just a kid - a good kid at that, look at how he got flipped and didn't retaliate from Thursday's game... That is a lot better that what most of us could do, he doesn't deserve these kind of insults...

He picked a bad college, but he is a good kid...

and...

:ousucksnana:

[OKState918]

FLAT OUT... I am saying it is racist to call a black person a monkey.

So is it racist to say Blake Griffin looks like a monkey, because empirically, he looks like a monkey? It wouldn't matter if he were black, white, yellow, purple, green or orange - you cannot deny the fact that Blake Griffin does in fact bare an uncanny resemblance to a primate.

It is just about 1 step above using the n-word.

Now you're just being ridiculous.

But I guess that is too PC too.

Or you're being overly sensitive and taking things entirely out of context.

Like I said, this is a goofy pic of Griffin, but we as Pokes can do much better than this.

You're right... We as Pokes can do much better than this, so I present to you a slightly modified, slightly funnier version of the original fark:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/OKState918/attachment-1.jpg

As I said before maybe this needs to be moved to the NS board, because it is rapidly digressing...

There wasn't even a "racist" element in the discussion until you came along...

[legelegel]

Calling a black person a monkey is considered a racial slur by many people.

In the UK, monkey is used to describe a black person. It is also used by white people to describe indigenous people of Southeast Asia.

The only person that I can remember in the USA getting into trouble using anything close to this was Howard Cosell, but he fondly called a lot of people "little monkey" starting with his grandchildren.

The "little monkey" incident
Cosell drew criticism during one Monday Night Football telecast in September 1983, for stating "look at that little monkey go", when he referred to a play by black wide receiver Alvin Garrett of the Washington Redskins. While some saw "little monkey" as a racial slur, televised footage shows that Cosell routinely used this phrase in an approving way to describe quicker, smaller players of all ethnicities.Just in case you don't want to step in it in the future, here is a long list of words currently considered racial slurs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_slur

[legelegel]

Delegate Calls Black Children 'Monkeys'

Illinois suburb trustee and Sen. Barack Obama [hispanic] delegate Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski resigned from her campaign post after she allegedly called two Black children monkeys, reports The Associated Press (http://365gay.com/Newscon08/04/040908ob.htm) (AP). Ramirez-Sliwinski, noticing the children playing in a small magnolia tree and concerned for both their safety and the health of the tree, asked the children to get down. After the parents supervising the children told her it was none of her business, Ramirez-Sliwinski retorted, saying "the tree is not there for them to be climbing in there like monkeys," reports AP. However, Sliwinski says she meant nothing racial by her comment (http://www.diversityinc.com/public/3370.cfm). The Obama campaign issued a statement that "given the incident, Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski is stepping down as a delegate and will be replaced," said Obama spokesperson Amy Brundage. http://www.diversityinc.com/public/3373.cfm

During President Barack Obama's 2008 campaign, his representatives reportedly asked Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski, a trustee of the Chicago suburb Carpentersville, IL, to step down as a pledged delegate. Ramirez-Sliwinski was issued a $75 ticket for disorderly conduct when neighbors complained after she told their children to get out of a tree, using the word "monkeys" to describe them. She said that she was concerned about the boys' safety and damage being inflicted to the tree. The Chicago Tribune quoted Ramirez-Sliwinski: "I calmly said the tree is not there for them to be climbing in there like monkeys."

Days after the reports that Ramirez-Sliwinski would be stepping down as a delegate, she negated these claims, saying that she had never indicated that she would step down and was is no reason for her to step down because the comment she made was not a racial insult. Ramirez-Sliwinski said that the reports of her stepping down were due to a "misunderstanding with one of Obama's staff," likening it to the misunderstanding with her neighbors. http://www.mahalo.com/Linda_Ramirez-Sliwinski

[legelegel]

associate black people with monkeys and apes (http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/02/associate-black-people-with-monkeys-and.html)

(http://www.psych.ucla.edu/faculty/faculty_page?id=147&area=7)hillip Atiba Goff (http://www.psych.ucla.edu/faculty/faculty_page?id=147&area=7) is an assistant professor in the UCLA Department of Psychology, where he conducts research on racial attitudes and beliefs. When he recently published the results of a five-year study of common psychological associations between black people and primates, his anxiety about the anticipated response was deeply personal.

"When I first analyzed the data, I spent two days under the covers," Goff said (http://www.miller-mccune.com/article/studies-expose-%E2%80%98apelike-stereotype-among-whites). "I was sick and depressed. When I left my apartment, I felt everyone looking at me would see a monkey."

For those who like to praise America for making great strides toward racial equality, Goff's findings should have sobering implications. Perhaps the most fundamental one is that a long history (http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/brute/) of white supremacist assumptions that black people are related to apes and monkeys is not just history. Instead, as Goff has demonstrated, those racist associations remain embedded within the minds of most white people, affecting their opinions and their behavior.

Goff's work may also help to explain the motives, conscious or not, of Sean Delonas, the cartoonist who created the dead-monkey image that's provoked so much discussion and outrage this week (you can see the cartoon here (http://nbm.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c069e2011278f9ab1028a4-popup)). Goff's research results demonstrate that such images are not only offensive and repugnant, because they dredge up age-old associations between black people and primates. They're also flat-out dangerous, because those associations are still active within the recesses of most white minds.

In a series of six different studies, Goff and his fellow researchers subjected hundreds of participants to an array of image- and word-association tests. In an overview (http://www.miller-mccune.com/article/studies-expose-%E2%80%98apelike-stereotype-among-whites) of the series, Tom Jacobs writes that in Goff's first study,

The participants were "primed" with one of three sets of images: 50 photographs of black male faces, 50 photos of white male faces or an abstract line drawing. As is standard practice on such tests, the images were flashed onto their computer screens too rapidly for them to consciously register.

The students then watched short films of animals, which were obscured in such a way that it was difficult at first to make out exactly what species they were seeing. Gradually, the image became clearer, so the animal could be identified.

The disturbing result: Participants who had been primed with black male faces required fewer frames to identify the animal in question as an ape. In contrast, those primed with white male faces required more frames to make the identification than those who saw the racially neutral line drawing.

"The effects were quite large -- distressingly large," Goff said. "There was a decent amount of variance, but there weren't a whole lot of folks that didn't demonstrate the effect.

"The difference between when the black face was primed and when the white face was primed was about six frames, which was about three full seconds. In cognitive terms, where you're staring at a screen you're just a few inches from and trying to tell what an object is, three seconds is a profound difference!"

Because the results from each of Goff's six studies show that racist connections between black people and primates are anything but a thing of the past, they have deep and immediate social implications. Goff's work helps to illuminate the pervasive undercurrents of white condescension, suspicion, and fear that black people routinely encounter in non-black environments.

For instance, another of Goff's studies suggests that ongoing associations between blacks and primates tend to make whites more approving of police abuse, if the victims are black instead of white.

In that project, white male students were initially briefed with words commonly associated with either apes or large cats. They then watched a video of a policeman beating a man:

Half were told the man (whose image was unclear on the film) was white; the other half were told he was black.

The students who were primed with cat words considered the beating unjustified. So did those who were primed with ape words but were told the victim was white. But those who were primed with the ape words and told the victim was black were far more ambivalent in their reaction.

"The association between black and ape left our white respondents more open to the possibility that police violence might in fact be justified," Goff said.

In the sixth and final study of his series, Goff's results also help to explain why the residents of death row are so disproportionately black. Goff analyzed newspaper reports of trials in which both black and non-black defendants were eligible for the death penalty. He found that descriptions of the trials for black defendants included far more primate-related language, such as "ape," "beast," "brute," or "jungle":

"It turned out African Americans had significantly more ape-related images ascribed to them than did whites. And among African Americans, the more ape-related images you had in your press coverage, the more likely you were to be put to death."

Goff is not claiming a causal relationship between the stories and the death sentences; juries, he noted, are routinely ordered not to read press accounts of their cases. Rather, he concluded, "the representation of African Americans as apelike is so present in the cultural ether that both the press and the juries were drawn toward it."

With, in some cases, lethal results.

If some part of a white person's mind has been trained to continually and habitually connect black people with primates, how likely is it that a white manager will treat a black job applicant fairly? How likely is it that a white police officer will treat a black suspect with an appropriate amount of respect and restraint, if some part of the officer's mind is associating that person with an ape? And isn't it likely that such subconscious associations also prevent many white teachers from crediting their black students with the same intellectual capacities as other students?

So no matter what the editors of the New York Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/19/new-york-posts-cartoon-ap_n_168427.html) claim in their thoroughly unapologetic apology, a cartoon that ties together a bloody, assassinated monkey and a bill that was signed by a black president is not only racist. It's also dangerous, because as Phillip Atiba Goff's profoundly revealing work demonstrates, such images reach into the depths of white minds and reinforce the common, demeaning, and dehumanizing imagery that's already there. That's why I can't see Sean Delonas' cartoon, nor the Post'snon-apology, as anything other than illustrations of a smug and vile type of irresponsibility.

And for any young white folks who think that racist ideas of black people as ape-like are mere relics of a forgettable history--Goff found that such images also exist in the minds of people who don't know anything about that history:

Goff found that even contemporary college students who had no idea this connection had ever been made apparently had this notion in their subconscious. (For one of the studies, the participants were specifically asked whether they were aware of the stereotype of blacks as apelike. Only 9 percent answered affirmatively.)

As the many clueless defenses of the Post cartoon demonstrate, Phillip Atiba Goff's valuable work deserves wider recognition. His results thoroughly demonstrate the tenacity of the associations that most of us still make between black people and primates. For white people, his work suggests that unless we work to understand that which is buried--and yet lives--deep within ourselves, we're likely at some point to enact dangerous and even lethal racist tendencies. No matter how much we might like to praise ourselves and our country for moving beyond racism.http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/02/associate-black-people-with-monkeys-and.html

[okiedado]

wow, what the hell do i know. i'm just an educated red-neck part indian cracker from eastern oklahoma.

[BigBadBen]

It's amazing your outrage about this, but you have no harsh words for your King Obama's slam on The Special Olympics. You posted on it, but nothing about the comments, just the news coverage.

Way to skate around it.

[legelegel]

It's amazing your outrage about this, but you have no harsh words for your King Obama's slam on The Special Olympics. You posted on it, but nothing about the comments, just the news coverage.

Way to skate around it.

BigBadBen, who is the you that you are referring too. :confused:

[OSUchris]

It's amazing your outrage about this, but you have no harsh words for your King Obama's slam on The Special Olympics. You posted on it, but nothing about the comments, just the news coverage.

Way to skate around it.

Sure I did... I think my exact words were that it was a stupid insensitive comment. Here is the exact post...

OK, to say it was a stupid remark (it was, it was insensitive, and he shouldn't have said it) is one thing, but to say it wasn't reported is another. Now granted I don't watch televised news very much but every news site (including MSNBC ) has this as one of their top stories. I am sure FoxNews has this as one of their banner headlines. Hell even HuffPost.com has this as a story (albeit a link to the apology he made immediately following the appearance).

He didn't call them a retard though...

[OSUchris]

BigBadBen, who is the you that you are referring too. :confused:

me

:)

[legelegel]

Thank you, Chris. I thought so, but I wasn't completely sure.

[legelegel]

I knew this country was in trouble with its words when our former President asked what was meant when the word "is" was being used.

Years from now, when we look back on Bill Clinton's presidency, its defining moment may well be Clinton's rationalization to the grand jury about why he wasn't lying when he said to his top aides that with respect to Monica Lewinsky, "there's nothing going on between us." How can this be? Here's what Clinton told the grand jury (according to footnote 1,128 in Starr's report):

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true."
http://www.slate.com/id/1000162/

[BigBadBen]

where is the OUTRAGE?

that was a slap on the wrist.

Get as bent out of shape about it like you did with the monkey comments.


Wheres the accusations of him being classless?

[OKState918]

Monkey: (UK) a black person.[109] Also used by white people in Southeast Asia to describe local people.

Huh.

Guess I should be equally offended. But I'm not because I understand words only take the context of the situation in which they're used.

[FloridaPoke]

My initial instincts were correct. I suggest OSUChris spend a modicum of time on the OU boards and see just how PC they are with our athletes.

Look.......BG's race has NOTHING TO DO with the fact that he looks like Curious George.

[OSUFan]

I wasn't running...

I would just rather take this offline rather than to continue this online.

BG is just a kid - a good kid at that, look at how he got flipped and didn't retaliate from Thursday's game... That is a lot better that what most of us could do, he doesn't deserve these kind of insults...

He picked a bad college, but he is a good kid...

and...

:ousucksnana:

But being a good kid kind of gets blurred in the rivalry. ou fans have called our players names even yelled them out at games loud and clear enough to be heard on tv -- we're doing it on an OSU board only one ou fan frequents. Do you know for sure Blake has never laughed when a teammate or ou fan made a disparaging comment about OSU or an OSU player or made one himself?

It's interesting that on one board OSU fans are all up in arms over a restaurant not showing the OSU/Tennessee game but on one tv and the management (big ou fan) throwing out the OSU fans who got upset about it and here you are accusing OSU fans of racial slurs about a goofy picture of Blake Griffin.

[JimBob]

My initial instincts were correct. I suggest OSUChris spend a modicum of time on the OU boards and see just how PC they are with our athletes.

Look.......BG's race has NOTHING TO DO with the fact that he looks like Curious George.

Is Curious related to Crazy?:food-smiley-004:

[BigBadBen]

Look.......BG's race has NOTHING TO DO with the fact that he looks like Curious George.


If that's Curious George, does this make him "Bi-Curious George"?

http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/blake-griffin-drag.jpg

[SeaOfOrange]

If that's Curious George, does this make him "Bi-Curious George"?

http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/blake-griffin-drag.jpg


Thanks Ben. I'll let you come over here and clean the beer off my laptop.

[OSUchris]

where is the OUTRAGE?

that was a slap on the wrist.

Get as bent out of shape about it like you did with the monkey comments.


Wheres the accusations of him being classless?

Apples and Oranges... Obama made a crack about the Special Olympics and thus its participants, and he apologized directly to the head of the Special Olympics prior to the interview even airing. This, on the otherhand, is a crack that some (maybe only me) consider to be racially insensitive directed at one 20 year old kid.

Tell you what. You can prove your point to me. Take the picture print it off and when BG is playing for the OKC Thunder next year take it to him and see what he thinks. Heck even write the monkey comments on the thread and had it to him. Heck if you don't have a printer I will do it for you, just PM me your address. Will you do that? If not why?

And to the others that say that OU Fans are just as bad. I come back to, the fact that we are Oklahoma State University graduates, we are better than that.

and of course....

GO POKES!!!!

and

:ousucksnana: :ousucksnana: :ousucksnana:

[OSUFan]

And to the others that say that OU Fans are just as bad. I come back to, the fact that we are Oklahoma State University graduates, we are better than that.

I don't need any OSU fan telling me what I can or cannot say about ou.

[OSUchris]

I don't need any OSU fan telling me what I can or cannot say about ou.

And to the others that say that OU Fans are just as bad. I come back to, the fact that we are Oklahoma State University graduates, we are better than that.

Apparently you are not.

[OKState918]

...we are Oklahoma State University graduates, we are better than that.

Better than being overly sensitive to archaic racial slurs and inferences that were, quite frankly, absent until you brought them into the conversation?

Point is, nobody on this board is stupid, so the implication that people were subliminally subjecting Blake Griffin to a racial bias is over-analytical in every sense of the word.

[OSUchris]

Better than being overly sensitive to archaic racial slurs and inferences that were, quite frankly, absent until you brought them into the conversation?

Point is, nobody on this board is stupid, so the implication that people were subliminally subjecting Blake Griffin to a racial bias is over-analytical in every sense of the word.

Sure thing... Not sure how archaic the slur is though... I will take it at everyone's word that they meant no offense. And I am sure B-cubed is printing his postcard to give to BG now. ;)

Go Pokes...

Final 4 2010!!!

and

:ousucksnana: :ousucksnana: :ousucksnana:

[OSUFan]

And to the others that say that OU Fans are just as bad. I come back to, the fact that we are Oklahoma State University graduates, we are better than that.

Apparently you are not.

Hey Chris, are you really living in Oregon? Do you have any ou fans that you see daily or you hear from on a daily basis that tell you OSU sucks or laughs at you in the morning after an OSU loss or sends you emails of the last Bedlam football, basketball or baseball score? Do you get to hear the media biasness for ou while waiting for any decent coverage of OSU sports? Have you had your car keyed by an ou fan after an OSU victory over ou at Redhawk Stadium or had ou wrestling fans threaten your life during a Bedlam match in Norman?

The problem I see is that you live in Oregon and you have no idea whatsoever what is going on in Oklahoma. My best friend lives in Kansas and he gives me crap about cheering against ou because he has to deal with KU and KSU fans giving him crap about anything in Oklahoma. He has no choice (at least he thinks so) but to pull for ou and OSU so both schools will shut up the traps of the KU and KSU fans.

I think your naive and PC feelings are because you are distanced from the rivalry, the hatred, the biasness and the love affair the Oklahoma media has with ou. I don't wish what we go through even on you but you should understand our point of views and accept that maybe you don't have the full picture and quit passing judgement on what we say about ou.

[OSUchris]

Hey Chris, are you really living in Oregon? Do you have any ou fans that you see daily or you hear from on a daily basis that tell you OSU sucks or laughs at you in the morning after an OSU loss or sends you emails of the last Bedlam football, basketball or baseball score? Do you get to hear the media biasness for ou while waiting for any decent coverage of OSU sports? Have you had your car keyed by an ou fan after an OSU victory over ou at Redhawk Stadium or had ou wrestling fans threaten your life during a Bedlam match in Norman?

The problem I see is that you live in Oregon and you have no idea whatsoever what is going on in Oklahoma. My best friend lives in Kansas and he gives me crap about cheering against ou because he has to deal with KU and KSU fans giving him crap about anything in Oklahoma. He has no choice (at least he thinks so) but to pull for ou and OSU so both schools will shut up the traps of the KU and KSU fans.

I think your naive and PC feelings are because you are distanced from the rivalry, the hatred, the biasness and the love affair the Oklahoma media has with ou. I don't wish what we go through even on you but you should understand our point of views and accept that maybe you don't have the full picture and quit passing judgement on what we say about ou.


I lived in Oklahoma from 1980-1996 - (went to OSU from 1991-1996, got my BS in Business Admin in MIS Dec 1996). Worked in KC for a couple years where my oldest was born. Then moved back to Edmond where I lived from 1999-2008. My second kid was born at Renaissance WC in Edmond (now closed), my third in OKC at Mercy. I moved to 155## SW Stone Ridge Circle in Beaverton, Oregon on July 30th 2008.

So Yes, I completely understand the bias against OSU. I completely understand that the Eshbecks, Trabors and Humphries as well as how the dark tower of doom off of Broadway Extension contribute to keeping OSU down and perpetuate the anti-Oklahoma State bias. I have seen paperclip fans ready to kill their first born after a bad loss in Football.

And yes I do feel that I have enough skin in this game to say that calling a 20 year old black kid a monkey is not cool.

[OSUFan]

... that calling a 20 year old black kid a monkey is not cool.

Whatever.

[OSUchris]

Whatever.

Way to be cool man...

[OSUchris]

Way to be cool man...

Anyone else want to stand up to this, or my past posts? I have pretty much given you my home address. I am more that willing to post my full name (Christopher Joseph Kish) as well, I would post my email but it would probably result in SPAM.

So what I am saying...

Is anyone else here willing to stand by what you post about a 20 year old black kid?

[OSUFan]

Anyone else want to stand up to this, or my past posts? I have pretty much given you my home address. I am more that willing to post my full name (Christopher Joseph Kish) as well, I would post my email but it would probably result in SPAM.

So what I am saying...

Is anyone else here willing to stand by what you post about a 20 year old black kid?

Geez! You just can't leave well enough alone. Just move on.

[OSUchris]

Geez! You just can't leave well enough alone. Just move on.

Sure thing...

[AnniePokely]

Anyone else want to stand up to this, or my past posts? I have pretty much given you my home address. I am more that willing to post my full name (Christopher Joseph Kish) as well, I would post my email but it would probably result in SPAM.

So what I am saying...

Is anyone else here willing to stand by what you post about a 20 year old black kid?

He's "half black"

And I stand by everything I've said. Not wavering for one second. There was no ill will placed on this kid about him being half black. I think the fact that his race made it into this conversation at all is more racist than anyone making fun of his goofy expression that made him look like a monkey.

I'm not really sure what the posting of your name and address is supposed to mean (Kinda odd, if you ask me) But I don't need to post my name to make my point. I own this board. Lots of people know me OFF this board AND in real life.

Yea, that kinda freaks me out. What is it exactly you are trying to prove with that? It looks to me like you're itching for a fight by asking if anyone wants to stand up to you/your posts. If you're this bothered by this thread, enought that you're posting your name and address and challenging people to stand up to you, then you might need to move on to another thread. For your own sanity. Ever consider moving over to the N/S board and making a ten page post to the people who think making jokes about mentally retarded people is cool? Surely the mentally challenged deserve just as much effort from you as Blake Griffin does.


Load up that soap box and move over there!

It's a message board, guy. People have different opinions than you do. Are you really going to keep going on and on accusing people you don't even now as racist? All for saying Blake looked like a monkey in that picture? Really? You've crapped all over this thread making racist accusations to people who never even thought about going down that road.

Really? Wow.

This whole thread has become really LAME.

[OSUchris]

Just trying to prove a point that sometimes we allow the anonymity of an internet message board to excuse us into saying things that we wouldn't say to someone in person. Remember I am one of the 6 (or less) left of center's on this board :), so I am fully aware that other people have opinions too. Didn't mean to freak you out.

[OSUFan]

Just trying to prove a point that sometimes we allow the anonymity of an internet message board to excuse us into saying things that we wouldn't say to someone in person. Remember I am one of the 6 (or less) left of center's on this board :), so I am fully aware that other people have opinions too. Didn't mean to freak you out.

So now, we're racists because we're conservatives?!

[Lewis the Pike]

It is racist to NOT call a black person who looks like a monkey, BECAUSE they are black.

It is racist to call a black person a monkey regardless of looks.

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And in all fairness, Terrell Harris looks he has Alfred E Newman's ears...
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[OSUchris]

So now, we're racists because we're conservatives?!

No, that is not what I meant by that. I meant that I understand point about everyone being able to express opinions. Being in the political minority on this board, we sometimes have to yell a bit louder to be heard.

:)

[OSUFan]

No, that is not what I meant by that. I meant that I understand point about everyone being able to express opinions. Being in the political minority on this board, we sometimes have to yell a bit louder to be heard.

:)

So you are yelling we are racists?!

[OSUchris]

So you are yelling we are racists?!

No. I meant that comment more general than this thread.

[OSUFan]

No. I meant that comment more general than this thread.

So, you just like to yell in general?

[legelegel]

A mother protested yesterday that two black boys were cast as monkeys in a school play.

Lorraine Rees claimed that Ashley Down Infant School in Bristol had been "culturally insensitive" over the allocation of the roles to her son and another boy, both aged seven. She asked that her son be withdrawn from the play.

Mrs Rees, 39, said her son, Myles, and the other boy had asked to play hunters in the production, An Enchanted Island, as it was a speaking part. But the pair, the only two black boys in the year group of about 60, were given the parts of monkeys. Three white children were also given the parts of monkeys but they requested the roles.

Mrs Rees said: "I am outraged. I had to explain to Myles that some nasty people call black people monkeys and he didn't understand at first. Then he said, 'Mum, I don't want to be a monkey.' "

Batook Pandya, the director of Support Against Racial Incidents, said schools must be sensitive to race issues.

He said: "Monkey has negative connotations and the school has to think of the long-term consequences. more (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1522070/Black-boys-cast-as-monkeys-in-school-play.html)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1522070/Black-boys-cast-as-monkeys-in-school-play.html

[OSUFan]

Geez, and the mom has to explain it to her kid or he would have been okay with it.

[legelegel]

Geez, and the mom has to explain it to her kid or he would have been okay with it.

She probably had to explain a lot of things to him when he came home after a tough day at school.

Thank you are editing your post, OSUFan.

[AnniePokely]

Every time I open this thread i feel I lose IQ points...



:stupe:

[OSUFan]

Every time I open this thread i feel I lose IQ points...



:stupe:

LOL! Sorry, Michelle! Kind of like reading an ou board, huh? ;)

[Verb]

I think this thread is begging to be locked, but I'll restrain myself in the hope that good judgment will win out and it will die a natural death.

[OSUFan]

I think this thread is begging to be locked, but I'll restrain myself in the hope that good judgment will win out and it will die a natural death.

Spoil sport! ;)

[AnniePokely]

I think this thread is begging to be locked, but I'll restrain myself in the hope that good judgment will win out and it will die a natural death.


Good judgement went out the window when the race card was thrown. I'll save you the time. I'm locking it.