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OSU-DNA
03-05-2009, 12:16 PM
Based on the numerous boards constructed to feed off the NCAA bubble frenzy and talk shows discussing the same, there appears to be at least two arguments which have not been listed.

-Following the Baylor game, there was a protest regarding the final few minutes regarding the foul and lack of a foul call in the game. It seems to me that the Big12 responded that they would use this point if it became important for the post season prospects of OSU.

As a brief reminder, a foul was called on Anderson when all the replays showed no foul, and a charging foul that Page took was also not called. If either correct call had been made, OSU would already have 10 victories and there would be no discussion of being a bubble team.

-The second argument should deal with the fact we have a new coach. Our lack of an out of conference major win other than Tulsa and Siena is considered a weakness. A new coach will take time to implement their system. The better evaluation for this team should be the performance over the last 10 games versus the first 10 games of performance under the new coach when most of those out of conference games take place.

I was hoping that some of the pushback to Doug Gottlieb would have entailed these thoughts. I do believe behind the ESPN doors he champions our position. And, I believe that input from ESPN is used by the committee on the basis that their analysts and announcers have seen the entire college BB world. Entering these positioning arguments into the fray should help move us off the bubble and into the Dance.

CaliforniaCowboy
03-05-2009, 12:26 PM
yeah, that or you could look at our record versus top 50 rpi, as compared to those that we're competing against for that bubble spot.

I seriously doubt that the committee has time to review every game played by every team to see if they need to "adjust" their "win" totals.

It would apperar that we are in, but I won't be comfortable with that whacky committee until we get a win in the Big12 tournament.

OSUSTORM
03-05-2009, 03:31 PM
When we beat u0 on Saturday, all this talk will be for nothing!

OKState918
03-05-2009, 04:27 PM
When we beat u0 on Saturday, all this talk will be for nothing!

Amen!

FalseGod
03-05-2009, 04:43 PM
It has been stated in past years that the committee does consider what have you done for me lately scenarios for NCAA tourney, but I think that is probably used more in the seeing process rather than the selection itself. If you play well at the end of the season you are bound to boost your resume as a result anyway if you are in a decent conference.

JonforOSU
03-05-2009, 08:25 PM
When we beat u0 on Saturday, all this talk will be for nothing!

Hear, hear!!

Remember, OU hasn't faced this line-up. Ever since Obi comes off the bench we're a different team. I think we'll be at a disadvantage, again, inside. If Moses, Brown and Kirkland are up to the task, on top of our gurads playing well, we could win this one and catch the Goons while they are down.

Then, no question, we'll be dancing

OSUFan
03-06-2009, 08:33 AM
My keys to the Bedlam game are guarding against the 3's and keeping ou from going on an 8-10 point run. I think the doubling on Blake will slow him down but he will get him points. They just need to keep him from throwing it out to an open 3. And it would be nice to have Obi hit more than one three for the whole game. But ou can be beat at their place!