a LOT of empty seats

[GoPokes83]

Whattup with that?

[legelegel]

Too many fans trying to vote today got stuck in long lines.

[JimBob]

Might have something to do with +31 +televised.

[CoachOSU]

it shouldn't matter JimBob... good programs sell out every home game... this is very disappointing to see (specially since I can't be there and wish I could be in the stands)...

Really sad to see some OSU fans not stepping up and coming to the games... looks real bad on NATIONAL tv to see so many empty seats...

Really sad in my opinion...

[GoPokes83]

I agree, especially since it's sandwiched between away games.

[Verb]

My husband, who doesn't read message boards or know anything our ticket price controversy, saw the empty seats and was absolutely HORRIFIED. He said "For gawds sake, we're number 9 in the BCS and our stadium is HALF EMPTY?"

It's pretty bad, alright.

[OSU DRUG REP]

Really sad to see some OSU fans not stepping up and coming to the games... looks real bad on NATIONAL tv to see so many empty seats...

Really sad in my opinion...
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I am so glad people are experts on fan that cant make it to a games. This holier then thou attitude is CRAP! Do you know everyones situation? Yeah I would like to see more people there, but YOU DONT KNOW, and THIS IS COMING FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE ON A MESSAGE BOARD DURING THE GAME, have the nerve to call people out!! I have seasons tickets, and I didnt make it to the game today because I have to catch a flight tonight for my JOB, but according to alot of you, thats not good enough!!

Why arent you there COACH OSU?????? How come you didnt step up?

[AnniePokely]

Yes, a LOT of us can't be there for many different reasons, but i seriously doubt 20,000 people had something come up. NOT something you see by a top 10 program.

I couldn't make it either, but my seats are filled.

[CoachOSU]

Well OSU Drug Rep... seeing how I am a Coach who lives in deep EAST Texas and who works on Saturday morning breaking down film of last nights game...

That would make it really impossible to make a game in Stillwater,Oklahoma from deep East Texas when the game starts at 2:30 and I get out of breaking down film at 1:30...


Now shut your mouth and don't speak up about situations you don't know about... simple as that... unless you know what you are talking about...don't speak

[GoPokes83]

Coach I don't think he was speaking of you....

Please don't yell at me. I have a full bladder

[Lewis the Pike]

hey everyone chill; i don't think anyone is pointing fingers at anyone;

we WON THE FREAKING GAME!!

[OSU DRUG REP]

That exactly my point!!! I dont know everyones situation and neither do you!!! You have to work, that understandable, I have to work, like Annie said, yeah prolly 20,000 didnt have something come up, but until you can prove that, you really have no room to judge!

[Verb]

Did it ever occur to you that people who hang out on a message board during the game might be people who live out of state, and maybe can't even get the game on TV? Geez.

[GoPokes83]

:music-smiley-019:

[JimBob]

Did it ever occur to you that people who hang out on a message board during the game might be people who live out of state, and maybe can't even get the game on TV? Geez.


The dog ate my television.:biggrin:

[wickerbill]

Student turnout today was really poor. The NW corner was mostly empty. What else on a Saturday afternoon is there to do in Stillwater?

[Lewis the Pike]

study?

[BigBadBen]

I haven't been one to bitch about ticket prices, we buy them because we can & love it.

But $85 for OSU v ISU really discourages walk up ticket purchases.
I think it may be a sign that ticket prices may need to be reevaluated.

Since individual game tickets aren't being sold for bedlam, expect a lower attendance than today.......

[AnniePokely]

A friend of mine sold three tickets for 50.00 today. There are cheap tickets to be found if you look for them. I gave three tickets away today so their would be warm bodies in my seats.

[BigBadBen]

oh I agree, sometimes you can find a deal.
But folks who live a couple hours or more away won't drive that far & hope to get lucky.

We used to before we got season tickets, but walk ups & scalper tickets were much cheaper.

I just want to have a full stadium and a loud & rowdy home field advantage!

[OSUFan]

I was disappointed there wasn't a bigger crowd but for those that were there they were pretty loud.

[FloridaPoke]

Today was glorious. Weather...perfect. Atmosphere....perfect. Beatdown opponent...perfect.

It is days like today that really piss me off at OSU fans. Absolutely NO reason for people not to come and enjoy something that doesn't come around every year.

[AnniePokely]

I have a reason, or i would have been there.

[1SassyPoke]

Yes, a LOT of us can't be there for many different reasons, but i seriously doubt 20,000 people had something come up. NOT something you see by a top 10 program.

I couldn't make it either, but my seats are filled.

Thanks for the seats!

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[orangepower]

We usually have 6 or 7 there to fill our 8 seats. Yesterday, we had 7. My little brother, a farmer who always can find something that needs doing instead of going to the game, commented about how empty the student section was. The south side and the west end zone were pretty full.

I really hope Holder can come up with a way to sell some tickets individually for Bedlam... BUT to OSU fans. How about selling game day tickets only if you are wearing ORANGE? :pacman:

[Ivan]

it shouldn't matter JimBob... good programs sell out every home game... this is very disappointing to see (specially since I can't be there and wish I could be in the stands)...

Really sad to see some OSU fans not stepping up and coming to the games... looks real bad on NATIONAL tv to see so many empty seats...

Really sad in my opinion...

You sure about that? Miami always had trouble selling out their games when they were good. Ohio State did not sell out their game the week after the loss to USC.

Yes the turn out was pretty bad, but let's not fool our selves that every top program does not have this problem.

[Gman]

I know there are many who will staunchly defend them, but the students should be ashamed of themselves. At any rate, it's become painfully obvious that we just don't have a big fan base and will never sell the stadium out consistently (regardless of how many games we win). Absolutely pathetic showing by the fans of a Big 12 team in the Top 10 of the BCS rankings. Oh well...

[wickerbill]

You sure about that? Miami always had trouble selling out their games when they were good. Ohio State did not sell out their game the week after the loss to USC.

Yes the turn out was pretty bad, but let's not fool our selves that every top program does not have this problem.

You don't generally see top programs ranked in the top 10 consistently fail to sell 20% of their tickets, especially with a stadium the size of ours.

[CaliforniaCowboy]

Now shut your mouth and don't speak up about situations you don't know about... simple as that... unless you know what you are talking about...don't speak

Crickets chirping....

that's about all we'd hear around here if everyone took that advice...

[CaliforniaCowboy]

I didn't get to see the empty seats that you're talking about, but it doesn't seem to align with the attendance numbers....

We had 45,001 for the Houston game and everybody talked about how full it looked even with that many unsold tickets, attendance for the ISU game was 46,718

we were only 3,200 short of another 50,000 game... you guys are making it sound like we were 20,000 short.

anybody have any thoughts on these descrepancies?

[gostate95]

I didn't get to see the empty seats that you're talking about, but it doesn't seem to align with the attendance numbers....

We had 45,001 for the Houston game and everybody talked about how full it looked even with that many unsold tickets, attendance for the ISU game was 46,718

we were only 3,200 short of another 50,000 game... you guys are making it sound like we were 20,000 short.

anybody have any thoughts on these descrepancies?

night game against houston. couldn't see a lot of the gaps. in the daylight and the fact that the tv cameras were at the right angles made it look REAL empty.

[AlwaysOrange]

It does look bad to see all the empty seats, especially since the expansion to add MORE seats. We were there till half time, but had to get back to Edmond to clean up and get to Kingfisher by 7:00pm for my 20 year class reunion. I hated to leave the game, but sometimes things are more important.

[legelegel]

It does look bad to see all the empty seats, especially since the expansion to add MORE seats. We were there till half time, but had to get back to Edmond to clean up and get to Kingfisher by 7:00pm for my 20 year class reunion. I hated to leave the game, but sometimes things are more important.

I just do not understand why people schedule other things for us to do on football game days. There are just far too many unconscious people around today. ;)






Mr. ;) needs to be one of more accessible smilies and not one of the more. :)

[Lewis the Pike]

You sure about that? Miami always had trouble selling out their games when they were good. Ohio State did not sell out their game the week after the loss to USC.

Yes the turn out was pretty bad, but let's not fool our selves that every top program does not have this problem.


+1

If the biggest thing to complain about after the game is attendance; we really need to ask what would make yourself happy. Geez!

[AnniePokely]

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[AlwaysOrange]

[QUOTE=legelegel;45793]I just do not understand why people schedule other things for us to do on football game days. There are just far too many unconscious people around today. ;) QUOTE]

Believe me....I had NOTHING to do with the date! Most are goons but obviously bandwagoners because they didn't look at the schedule either. :rollseyes:

Sorry AP.....but I had to respond!

[osupride97]

I really hope Holder can come up with a way to sell some tickets individually for Bedlam... BUT to OSU fans. How about selling game day tickets only if you are wearing ORANGE? :pacman:


I really hope so too. I need ONE ticket to Bedlam. Sure would be nice if he offers individuals to season ticket holders.

[osujane]

I was there, and tons of people left after the first half and didn't come back.

[OSUFan]

I love candy corn! :D

I could be wrong but I think the complaint about the attendance in the first post was not directed to anyone on this board nor did the poster intend for it to be a personal attack on anyone here. I think it was a general statement on the OSU fan population as a whole.

[BigBadBen]

I love candy corn! :D

I could be wrong but I think the complaint about the attendance in the first post was not directed to anyone on this board nor did the poster intend for it to be a personal attack on anyone here. I think it was a general statement on the OSU fan population as a whole.



Agreed, and Agreed!

Candy Corn rules, and the comments were a blanket statement that it looks bad on TV when the stadium isnt full.

[CaliforniaCowboy]

well, don't worry about any of it, because most of the US population didn't even get to see the game... or the empty seats.

[cowboystover]

I had to take this semester off but the past three years i had student tickets and i was at every game as soon as the gates opened two hours before the game and never left til the clock read zero some students are just ready for the game to be over so they can have an excuse to drink...sighs

[CaliforniaCowboy]

ready for the game to be over so they can have an excuse to drink...sighs

an excuse to drink?

hmmm, I never thought of that... weird

[cactusjack]

Our fan base is pathetic. Plain and simple. I'm not scared to say it.

We have a top ten team that is incredibly exciting to watch, and we struggle to put 40,000 in the stands.

Theres 30,000 people living in stillwater that never go to games. I have so many OSU friends that never go to a game unless they get a free ticket.

[GoPokes83]

I wish i could have seen the last half of the 4th quarter. Thanks ABC

[Razor_Poke]

We certainly have an interesting fan base. Bowl reps love us because we have a good travel history and we know how to pack out a basketball arena. It seems like the same 40,000 that show up in Stillwater are just as likely to show up at the Cotton Bowl.

[osupride97]

Our fan base is pathetic. Plain and simple. I'm not scared to say it.

We have a top ten team that is incredibly exciting to watch, and we struggle to put 40,000 in the stands.

Theres 30,000 people living in stillwater that never go to games. I have so many OSU friends that never go to a game unless they get a free ticket.


Exactly Jack. I don't understand why Stillwater residents and surrounding towns don't make the effort.

I feel bad for the Cowboys. This is one of the best Cowboy teams I've seen since becoming a fan in 1990 and we can't fill it up. :(

[snuffy]

Exactly Jack. I don't understand why Stillwater residents and surrounding towns don't make the effort.

I feel bad for the Cowboys. This is one of the best Cowboy teams I've seen since becoming a fan in 1990 and we can't fill it up. :(

I know why some can't make the effort, cost. I know several OSU and Stillwater police officers and tickets came up and most public servants, teachers, city worker and police can not afford the prices. I don't put this all on Holder, although prices are high, but when you combine prices and how pathetically low they are paid can partly explain why more Stillwater residents don't go.

[JimBob]

Our fan base is pathetic. Plain and simple. I'm not scared to say it.

We have a top ten team that is incredibly exciting to watch, and we struggle to put 40,000 in the stands.

Theres 30,000 people living in stillwater that never go to games. I have so many OSU friends that never go to a game unless they get a free ticket.


I recall Pat Jones (in the last century) saying we had a "core group" of fans that was 30k+ back in the mid/late 80's when we cheated and had fun. It's 20 years later and it's risen by approx. 10k. The level of this year's success was prolly unexpected by most; so why expect a sudden bump/rush of fans, especially for dog biscuit games like ISU. OSU is competing for entertainment dollars just like everyone else, and face it, the product on the field (prior to this year) hasn't exactly been a great bang for the buck. We finish strong, it will show up in next year's ticket sales/attendance.

[Vulgar Display of Orange]

I really hope so too. I need ONE ticket to Bedlam. Sure would be nice if he offers individuals to season ticket holders.

Word on the street is that single Bedlam tickets will be made available to posse members with season tickets.

[legelegel]

I wish i could have seen the last half of the 4th quarter. Thanks ABC

That had to be your local affiliate. I saw it all in OKC.

[GoPokes83]

They switched to the ga tech game and then to another one, and then to the wrapup show. I usually really don't have an issue with them switching away from the last minutes of a blowout, but couldn't they do a picture in a picture kind of thing. I missed Cate coming in, Woods catch, I State's touchdown... who knows what else?

The end of the Ga Tech / FSU game was a good one, but honestly Austin, TX is Big 12 country. I could have seen the highlights of that and a bunch of other ACC games on Sportscenter if that was what I was looking for.

[legelegel]

They switched to the ga tech game and then to another one, and then to the wrapup show. I usually really don't have an issue with them switching away from the last minutes of a blowout, but couldn't they do a picture in a picture kind of thing. I missed Cate coming in, Woods catch, I State's touchdown... who knows what else?

The end of the Ga Tech / FSU game was a good one, but honestly Austin, TX is Big 12 country. I could have seen the highlights of that and a bunch of other ACC games on Sportscenter if that was what I was looking for.

Austin is also Texas country and your Texas station had seen enough of an Oklahoma team on their monitor.

[CaliforniaCowboy]

Word on the street is that single Bedlam tickets will be made available to posse members with season tickets.

Sweet...

you mean all I have to do is plop down $150 dollars and I'll be able to get two bedlam tickets for another $85 each? That would be just over $300 dollars for two rather than the $800 I'm planning on spending for two more season tickets.

Funny thing is when I bought these tickets, I was going to pay for Posse to be able to select seats, but the ticket guy told me I'd get the same seats either way so I didn't really need to plop down the $150 right now.

I use to be a Posse member, but I decided I would become a season ticket holder rather than just donate to Posse, because I thought it would help the team out more... now you're telling me I didn't need to buy season tickets, I only needed to be a Posse member to get Bedlam tickets?

The "word on the street" doesn't seem to be making much sense to me.

[wickerbill]

now you're telling me I didn't need to buy season tickets, I only needed to be a Posse member to get Bedlam tickets?

The "word on the street" doesn't seem to be making much sense to me.

His post says Posse members who are also season ticket holders so you would need to be both if it's true. Nobody's forcing you to buy the tickets.

[osupride97]

Word on the street is that single Bedlam tickets will be made available to posse members with season tickets.


That would be great! Hope what you've heard is true.

[CoachOSU]

Drug Rep.- You don't get on here and call out people without knowing their situations.... yes, I fully believe I can call out people (students) who didn't bother to show up for a national tv game.. we sure have no problem filling stands when Texas, OU, etc... comes to town.

Now I realize... Iowa State is not as flashy of a game... but...we need to fill the stadium... 8-1 and we have tons of empty seats...makes no sense...

And yes, big time programs do sell out..OU, Texas, Texas Tech, heck when was the last time you saw A&M not 95% or more full? BIG TIME PROGRAMS do sell out home games... big time programs do have that kind of support...

Hate to burst your bubble.. and anyone knows I am as big a OSU fan as you will ever find... but it is still disappointing to see the empty seats...


Drug... I never called out any individuals ever...I called out a group as fans... you attacked me personally..totally different... and I have no doubt you would be there if you could..just like me..now make excuses for those who live there but didn't go?

[OKState918]

Our fan base is pathetic. Plain and simple. I'm not scared to say it.

We have a top ten team that is incredibly exciting to watch, and we struggle to put 40,000 in the stands.

Theres 30,000 people living in stillwater that never go to games. I have so many OSU friends that never go to a game unless they get a free ticket.

I agree to an extent, but I've never been of the opinion that a team's hometown population dictates the team's attendance.

I mean, to put things into context, just look at a school like, say, Miami. What's the population of Miami? A million or so? And yes, I know the student body is small and that there aren't hundreds of thousands of UM alumni running around, but still - there's money in Florida, historically good football, and a large segment of bandwagon fans. That said, UM rarely came close to filling the Orange Bowl even when the 'Canes were winning national championships.

So, I don't know... I mean, it's disappointing that we didn't have more there on Saturday, but given the opponent, I can't say I'm that angry about it. Likewise, minus the west endzone, that would have been a near sellout any other year, so maybe things really aren't so bad.

[Go Pokes]

Word on the street is that single Bedlam tickets will be made available to posse members with season tickets.

That street is a dead end.

Holder will not change his stance at the 11th hour. OSU will be fine. Fans can get on board starting with the big 12 title game*, bowl game or 2009.


*there's still a chance ...

[Vulgar Display of Orange]

That street is a dead end.

Holder will not change his stance at the 11th hour. OSU will be fine. Fans can get on board starting with the big 12 title game*, bowl game or 2009.


*there's still a chance ...

How is that changing his stance?

[Go Pokes]

I said he WASN'T changing his stance. No single-game Bedlam tickets is his stance. No means no. That won't change (not even with exceptions for POSSE members, etc.) ... if he does change the policy (in any way), he will open himself up to more criticism.

[GoPokesit]

How is that changing his stance?

If he makes the policy change, there will be a handfull of pissed off season ticket holders who would have either bought fewer tickets or none at all had single game tickets been available in the manner suggested.

[Vulgar Display of Orange]

If he makes the policy change, there will be a handfull of pissed off season ticket holders who would have either bought fewer tickets or none at all had single game tickets been available in the manner suggested.

He has never said 'no single game bedlam tickets' outside of the context of general public sales. He has said several times that the only way to be able to purchase Bedlam tickets is by being a season ticket holder. He never said anything about only being able to buy one bedlam ticket with your season ticket.

[Go Pokes]

He has never said 'no single game bedlam tickets' outside of the context of general public sales. He has said several times that the only way to be able to purchase Bedlam tickets is by being a season ticket holder. He never said anything about only being able to buy one bedlam ticket with your season ticket.

You're reading too much into it.

Here's how you go to Bedlam:
1) Buy an OSU season ticket. Use that ticket to get in.
2) Buy an OSU student ticket. Use that ticket to get in.
3) Buy one of OU's allotted tickets from OU ticket office. Use that ticket to get in.
4) Buy someone else's ticket, obtained by one of the above means.

That's it. Why is it so hard to comprehend? :catfight:

[Vulgar Display of Orange]

You're reading too much into it.

Here's how you go to Bedlam:
1) Buy an OSU season ticket. Use that ticket to get in.
2) Buy an OSU student ticket. Use that ticket to get in.
3) Buy one of OU's allotted tickets from OU ticket office. Use that ticket to get in.
4) Buy someone else's ticket, obtained by one of the above means.

That's it. Why is it so hard to comprehend? :catfight:

Sorry. I must have missed that section on the brochure...and the website.

[GoPokesit]

Sorry. I must have missed that section on the brochure...and the website.

The website says: "Oklahoma single game tickets are not available"

http://www.okstate.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=200&ATCLID=1148476#football

[Go Pokes]

Sorry. I must have missed that section on the brochure...and the website.

You're right. "OU single-game tickets not available" is pretty hard to comprehend.

[legelegel]

Maybe season tickets will be substantially discounted now that only one game is left.

[Lewis the Pike]

an excuse to drink?

hmmm, I never thought of that... weird

:biggrin:Nice!

[Go Pokes]

Maybe season tickets will be substantially discounted now that only one game is left.

Or not.

[legelegel]

Or not.

Again, I say why not?

If Holder wants to fill BPS with a record crowd for Bedlam, selling 20,000 season tickets at half price would be the answer. It would also put needed money in the bank.

[Go Pokes]

Again, I say why not?

If Holder wants to fill BPS with a record crowd for Bedlam, selling 20,000 season tickets at half price would be the answer. It would also put needed money in the bank.

Not saying you have a bad idea. Just saying it won't happen this year.

[legelegel]

Not saying you have a bad idea. Just saying it won't happen this year.

OK. I was just thinking how Holder could get out his box.

Hell, he probably has planned to do what I suggest all along. :)

Those remaining season tickets will sell like hot cakes at a discount.

I'm thinking he will make the announcement during OSU's off week or even later.

He will fill those seats some way.

[CaliforniaCowboy]

Again, I say why not?

If Holder wants to fill BPS with a record crowd for Bedlam, selling 20,000 season tickets at half price would be the answer. It would also put needed money in the bank.

I'm not sure where you're getting 20,000.... we've sold around 40,000 season tickets, and OU gets 5,000, that's 45,000 already (only 15,000 left)

I have never heard that Holder's "goal" was to sell out Bedlam, quite the contrary, his stated goal was to increase season ticket sales, which he accomplished in a grand fashion.

I will be very upset with Holder if he changes his position now. I would eagerly have been a Posse memeber if it had been published that it wiould be required to get extra tickets.

[legelegel]

I'm not sure where you're getting 20,000.... we've sold around 40,000 season tickets, and OU get 5,000, that's 45,000 already (only 15,000 left)

I have never heard that Holder's "goal" was to sell out Bedlam, quite the contrary, his stated goal was to increase season ticket sales, which he accomplished in a grand fashion.

I will be very upset with Holder if he changes his position now. I would eagerly have been a Posse memeber if it had been published that it wiould be required to get extra tickets.


Yes, my 20,000 was a bit off. I knew we sold about 40,000 season tickets and I failed to consider visitor ticket allotments. Thanks for the heads up on my number of possible empty seats.

I don't care what Holder decides to do with those tickets. He just needs to figure out how to put 15,000 more Cowboy fans in BPS for Bedlam.

If Holder feels that he can't change his mind and sell the Bedlam tickets for a lower price then he should give them away in a controlled way to high school students. It would be a great promotion for some students that have never seen the OSU campus.

Just figure out how to put some more orange butts in those seats.

[wickerbill]

Yes, my 20,000 was a bit off. I knew we sold about 40,000 season tickets and I failed to consider visitor ticket allotments. Thanks for the heads up on my number of possible empty seats.

I don't care what Holder decides to do with those tickets. He just needs to figure out how to put 15,000 more Cowboy fans in BPS for Bedlam.

If Holder feels that he can't change his mind and sell the Bedlam tickets for a lower price then he should give them away in a controlled way to high school students. It would be a great promotion for some students that have never seen the OSU campus.

Just figure out how to put some more orange butts in those seats.

I don't see how giving them out to high school students that have never seen campus is putting "more orange butts" in the stadium. It would be almost impossible for anything Holder does to sell those tickets and not have a good portion of them end up in the hands of the enemy.

[legelegel]

I don't see how giving them out to high school students that have never seen campus is putting "more orange butts" in the stadium. It would be almost impossible for anything Holder does to sell those tickets and not have a good portion of them end up in the hands of the enemy.

Qualify the tickets someway. Code them where only a certain age group can enter with them.

Stamp "Not to be resold under penalties of death" on them . :)

Issue the tickets just before game time and make them enter together in small groups.

I'm not sure what can be done. Someone needs to start thinking though.

How many students in the Stillwater school system are Sooner fans? That would be a good group to look at for young Cowboy fans.

[CaliforniaCowboy]

Nix the HS student idea... there's no way to ensure that they would be wearing Orange... lots and lots of "red" HS students in OK.