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OSU-DNA
08-18-2008, 12:35 PM
There have been several threads discussing the need for improvement in our record for '08 and stating that we should have been 8-4 last year as the basis for staking out the expected level for this year.

Could it be that while we should have closed out the UT and A&M games victorious, we were also fortunate in a few others that could have gone the other way. Our victories over TT and KSU in my mind could easily have gone the other way. I am sure TT felt they had the game won when we punted to them, and KSU must have felt the same way when they scored on the 2 point conversion giving them the lead. Remember also in the KSU game we stopped them on a turnover when they were down close in the 3rd quarter. If they had scored it would have left us in a multi-score deficit.

While we still would have beaten NU, we were extremely fortunate in the first quarter with the breaks going our way. On the opening series their WR was wide open across the middle for a first down and dropped a pass that hit him in the hands. Savage was lit up on a punt return and fumbled. The NU player that hit Savage was flagged for initiating contact before the reception; but the replay was inconclusive, ball to us. On a 3rd and 20 play their receiver was ruled out of bounds on a catch that would have given them a 1st and 10, replay inconclusive. Those plays percipitated the landslide but could have easily in case of the ref decisions gone the other way.

Given all of the that, I see us capable of 8-4. We have an extremely tough game with CU late in the season that could easily go to them. On the other hand we should also have a shot at an upset against one of these teams: UT, MU or OU. With UT and OU being the more likely.

We need to open strong. We should expect several questionable calls going to WSU in the opener. It will be interesting to see how we handle this and number of flags thrown on us versus them. I can see this keeping the game close but expect our talent to eventually win the day.

Vulgar Display of Orange
08-18-2008, 12:40 PM
5 - 7. Prove me wrong Gundy.

Erick
08-18-2008, 12:59 PM
5 - 7. Prove me wrong Gundy.

He has, two years in a row. What are the 7 games that you think we will loose?

I think with an improved Defense we will go 8-4. I am just not sure who we loose to.

cactusjack
08-18-2008, 01:03 PM
9-3....or better. We are the new Kansas this season!!!!!!!!!!!!:music-smiley-005:

CaliforniaCowboy
08-18-2008, 02:11 PM
I don't know DNA... 6-6 just seems to whacky.

If you only look at the conference games, we were 4-4 last year, and using your logic (going either way), we could have won more and we could have lost more, but we didn't so they seemed to average themselves out; and I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be the same this season (at a minimum). Accordingly 4-4 in conference play isn't much of a stretch, even with some games being given away and other teams giving us games.. (if it were to happen that way).

But that still means we don't play Georgia in Athens, and we don't play Troy in Troy with a NFL caliber QB. Personally, I don't think that Troy beats us last year of not for our own undoing with the QB thingy and TB injuries.

If we go 4-0 in OOC games and end up 6-6, then this season will be a complete disaster.

... and if we go 2-2 in OOC games, then this season will be a complete disaster unless somehow we could end up 5-3 in conference... which seems just as whacky.

jbug
08-18-2008, 02:30 PM
IMO 6 and 6 will cost Gundy his job...
Just don't think Holder will be able to justify
Sean's firing/buy out and turn around and
let Mike 'live'? Your thoughts on that?

wood911
08-18-2008, 03:13 PM
9-3....or better. We are the new Kansas this season!!!!!!!!!!!!:music-smiley-005:

It really sounds bad to compare us to KU in football.:( I think 6-6 gets Gundy put on notice if not fired. I'm thinking 8-4. To get better we have to start winning some games against people that have beat us regularly and are considered better programs.
Where is Colorado getting all the love? I don't see them being a dominate team this year. I expect to win that one and think it would be a blowout in BPS.

Vulgar Display of Orange
08-18-2008, 03:22 PM
He has, two years in a row. What are the 7 games that you think we will loose?

I think with an improved Defense we will go 8-4. I am just not sure who we loose to.

at Washington State - W/L
Houston - W/L
Missouri State - W
Troy - W/L
Texas A&M - L
at Missouri - L
Baylor - W
at Texas - L
Iowa State - W/L
at Texas Tech - L
at Colorado - L
Oklahoma - L

Rack
08-18-2008, 03:56 PM
at Washington State - W/L
Houston - W/L
Missouri State - W
Troy - W/L
Texas A&M - L
at Missouri - L
Baylor - W
at Texas - L
Iowa State - W/L
at Texas Tech - L
at Colorado - L
Oklahoma - L

Wow man, you are a pessimist. I'm thinking we BETTER win all those non-con games you show as (W/L toss up’s) as we will be favored in EVERY one of them. We also better beat A&M in Stillwater already. If we lose to ISU I'll personally fire Gundy and Holder and Bedlam is a tossup in Stillwater as we will be undefeated at home going into that game.

Vulgar Display of Orange
08-18-2008, 04:15 PM
Wow man, you are a pessimist. I'm thinking we BETTER win all those non-con games you show as (W/L toss up’s) as we will be favored in EVERY one of them. We also better beat A&M in Stillwater already. If we lose to ISU I'll personally fire Gundy and Holder and Bedlam is a tossup in Stillwater as we will be undefeated at home going into that game.

I'm not pessimistic. I've just played this song enough to know all of the words. You are right though. We should win all of those toss up games. We should have beat aTm last year. We should have beat Texas last year. We should have beat both the year before. We should have alot of times, but Gundy & Co. has found a way to hose it.

They have continually shown that their teams are not prepare...especially on the road which is why I think that the Washington State game is a toss-up. Iowa State too. Look at what we did against Kansas the week after Texas last year. It would not surprise me at all to see the cyclones roll into the money pit and have Gundy scratching his spikes by the 4th quarter.

Houston likes to pass and we like to let people pass. Keep in mind that same QB that rolled into Tuscaloosa last year and almost set the state of alabama back 20 years last season will be in Stillwater this year with one more year of experience.

We know what Troy can do.

Bottom line is that there are only 2 practice girls on the schedule this season. And only one of those is a conference game.

BigBadBen
08-18-2008, 05:11 PM
8-4 Minimum.

If this team can build confidence ealry, and learn to string together some wins, this could be a very successful year.

pistolpete2002
08-18-2008, 05:24 PM
8-4 Minimum.

If this team can build confidence ealry, and learn to string together some wins, this could be a very successful year.


Agree 100%!!!! :music-smiley-005:

jbug
08-18-2008, 06:08 PM
Yes but... if they stumble up at WSU it could be a very, very long year...
Troy at home is no guarantee game...it'll be tough.
And we have had all the close but not enough games to last all
of us a life time, huh?
No more 1. Scratch their eyes, 2. PRESS on or Braclets for the Big 12 Championship...
SHOW us the money, win it for the T. Bone or whatever but MOVE on/up or
let's get a coach that can GET 'er DONE! Tis time to be the year of the
Cowboy's , tis time to get off the pot, and tis time to WIN it all!

I honestly don't think Vulgar is being negative nor pessimestic...he is just
saying stop talking the talk and show me the WALK.

CaliforniaCowboy
08-18-2008, 06:08 PM
I'm not pessimistic. I've just played this song enough to know all of the words. You are right though. We should win all of those toss up games. We should have beat aTm last year. We should have beat Texas last year. We should have beat both the year before. We should have alot of times, but Gundy & Co. has found a way to hose it.

They have continually shown that their teams are not prepare...especially on the road which is why I think that the Washington State game is a toss-up. Iowa State too. Look at what we did against Kansas the week after Texas last year. It would not surprise me at all to see the cyclones roll into the money pit and have Gundy scratching his spikes by the 4th quarter.

Houston likes to pass and we like to let people pass. Keep in mind that same QB that rolled into Tuscaloosa last year and almost set the state of alabama back 20 years last season will be in Stillwater this year with one more year of experience.

We know what Troy can do.

Bottom line is that there are only 2 practice girls on the schedule this season. And only one of those is a conference game.

I think that is pretty much the definition of a pessimist.... we didn't do it before so we can't do it now; regardless of the plethora of changes from one season to the next...

You're basing almost all of your comments and prognosis on last years teams and our past teams... with little or no regard for this team and its merits, or the shortcomings of our opponents this year.

What no consideration for all the teams we'll be playing that have new coaches? (WSU, UH, A&M, Baylor), no consideration over the significant loss of talent by Troy (expecially QB)?

No consideration that this OSU team is not loaded down with rookies and first year players, or the added maturity and depth to potentially finish games for once?

I think pessimistic hits your post spot-on.

buster t daddy
08-18-2008, 06:37 PM
I don't know DNA... 6-6 just seems to whacky.

If you only look at the conference games, we were 4-4 last year, and using your logic (going either way), we could have won more and we could have lost more, but we didn't so they seemed to average themselves out; and I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be the same this season (at a minimum). Accordingly 4-4 in conference play isn't much of a stretch, even with some games being given away and other teams giving us games.. (if it were to happen that way).

But that still means we don't play Georgia in Athens, and we don't play Troy in Troy with a NFL caliber QB. Personally, I don't think that Troy beats us last year of not for our own undoing with the QB thingy and TB injuries.

If we go 4-0 in OOC games and end up 6-6, then this season will be a complete disaster.

... and if we go 2-2 in OOC games, then this season will be a complete disaster unless somehow we could end up 5-3 in conference... which seems just as whacky.


hi poke fans , I am new here but iamexcited for our football program and i fell that our special teams was a big in the games that got to see which was few .

it seems to me if Pettigrew is the best offensive player next to Dez then we ought to use Pettigrew more. do you guys know how the wr and rb depth chart should look like ?

if the special teams could get some turnovers and play the way they did when Darrent Williams was in stillwater the osu should win 7 games and possibly 9 wins is not impossible. but there was two games that i saw where the players looked unprepared and uninterested. those two games were Kansas and Troy but i could be wronge here.

i hope is for 8-4 but i would be overjoyed if we could pull out a 9 win season .

a 6 win season will be a let down to me , for it will show me that osu isnt getting it done and with Texas A&M , and Texas Tech on our heels its important not squander the opertunity to mave up the ladder in the big 12 south.:cool:

osupride97
08-18-2008, 06:39 PM
It's time to shit or get off the pot.

Anything less than 8 - 4 is a bust in my opinion. I'm tired of hearing "wait til next year."

jbug
08-18-2008, 07:00 PM
TIS time to win or time to CHANGE.

JUST don't think Cali understands our frustration...YEARS or hearing
'wait till next year', etc, etc, etc.

Vulgar Display of Orange
08-18-2008, 09:32 PM
I think that is pretty much the definition of a pessimist.... we didn't do it before so we can't do it now; regardless of the plethora of changes from one season to the next...

You're basing almost all of your comments and prognosis on last years teams and our past teams... with little or no regard for this team and its merits, or the shortcomings of our opponents this year.

What no consideration for all the teams we'll be playing that have new coaches? (WSU, UH, A&M, Baylor), no consideration over the significant loss of talent by Troy (expecially QB)?

No consideration that this OSU team is not loaded down with rookies and first year players, or the added maturity and depth to potentially finish games for once?

I think pessimistic hits your post spot-on.

Noted.

OSUFan
08-18-2008, 10:06 PM
Since when did Colorado get so good? They were 6-6 (actually 6-7 with the bowl loss) last year and they lost five of their last seven games. I wouldn't really call that momentum going into 2008. I just don't understand why @ CU is a given loss. I predict OSU will be 8-2 and CU will be 4-6 when they face and OSU will win at CU.

wood911
08-19-2008, 08:53 AM
Since when did Colorado get so good? They were 6-6 (actually 6-7 with the bowl loss) last year and they lost five of their last seven games. I wouldn't really call that momentum going into 2008. I just don't understand why @ CU is a given loss. I predict OSU will be 8-2 and CU will be 4-6 when they face and OSU will win at CU.

My thoughts exactly. See post above. CU may be good but there is nothing to base that on at this point. There is no reason to think they should be better than OSU that I can see. A bunch of the preseason stuff is based on WAG's with no basis in fact as far as I can tell.

Rack
08-19-2008, 09:14 AM
I'm not pessimistic. I've just played this song enough to know all of the words. You are right though. We should win all of those toss up games. We should have beat aTm last year. We should have beat Texas last year. We should have beat both the year before. We should have alot of times, but Gundy & Co. has found a way to hose it.

They have continually shown that their teams are not prepare...especially on the road which is why I think that the Washington State game is a toss-up. Iowa State too. Look at what we did against Kansas the week after Texas last year. It would not surprise me at all to see the cyclones roll into the money pit and have Gundy scratching his spikes by the 4th quarter.

Houston likes to pass and we like to let people pass. Keep in mind that same QB that rolled into Tuscaloosa last year and almost set the state of alabama back 20 years last season will be in Stillwater this year with one more year of experience.

We know what Troy can do.

Bottom line is that there are only 2 practice girls on the schedule this season. And only one of those is a conference game.


By the same logic you present, we "should" have lost to Tech, Nebraska, and Kansas State last year as all three were favored in our games with them.

Btw, Iowa State is a home game and in NO WAY should we lose to them in Stillwater no matter who we play the week before. We should be a two touchdown favorite. Kansas won a BCS game and ISU is the Baylor of the north right now you can't compare the two.

buster t daddy
08-19-2008, 11:02 AM
Yes but... if they stumble up at WSU it could be a very, very long year...
Troy at home is no guarantee game...it'll be tough.
And we have had all the close but not enough games to last all
of us a life time, huh?
No more 1. Scratch their eyes, 2. PRESS on or Braclets for the Big 12 Championship...
SHOW us the money, win it for the T. Bone or whatever but MOVE on/up or
let's get a coach that can GET 'er DONE! Tis time to be the year of the
Cowboy's , tis time to get off the pot, and tis time to WIN it all!

I honestly don't think Vulgar is being negative nor pessimestic...he is just
saying stop talking the talk and show me the WALK.

wow jbug ,you have a lot of guts not to pump sunshine but i am on ob side here. if we go 6-6 I would be very disapointed especially with all the money being poured into the stadium.
osu need to win 8 wins plaus a bowl to make the jump .

:cowboy:

buster t daddy
08-19-2008, 11:06 AM
It's time to shit or get off the pot.

Anything less than 8 - 4 is a bust in my opinion. I'm tired of hearing "wait til next year."

thats true , osu needs to win and move up the big 12 ladder because tech and A&M are on our heels and for the money being invested by MR.Pickens a 66- win season is not a good return on the investment.

8 wins equals a good return

9 wins equals a profit

10 wins equals the jackpot.:pete:

OSUFan
08-19-2008, 11:50 AM
I predict OSU will be 10-2 going into the Big 12 Championship and/or bowl game. :D

Losses will be @ MU and @ Tech.

OSU-DNA
08-19-2008, 12:02 PM
Colorado is more dangerous for several reasons. The game comes at the end of a long stream of highly emotional games and before Bedlam. It fits the classic definition of a trap game. Colorado beat OU in Boulder last year and has better talent this year. And, it is an away game for us and the Buffaloes Senior Day.

The purpose of highlighting last year's 6-6 was to illustrate that while we lost two games in the 4th quarter we also won two that could have gone the other way. On a given day, there is very little marginal difference between the teams in the conference. While last year we could have been 8-4; we could also have been 4-8.

Regarding the Receivers, Bryant and Pettigrew are hands down our best. Pettigrew has only one area to improve which is hanging on to the ball after a reception. If he shows solid improvement in this one area this year he will be a round 1 choice. Bo Bowling seems to have secured the slot position and Demarcus Conner the other WR position. We really need the Conner position to be a legitimate threat stretching the field to provide space to open the slot and TE. We should anticipate Dez being doubled frequently but a match up against a 5th DB or LB should be available for our slot or TE.

At running back, Spud leads off. Kendall Hunter, aka Spud. Remember last year Dantrell looked significantly larger than Kendall. I believe we listed Savage as 5'10 and North of 190. The Chiefs indicate that Savage has shrunk to 5'8" and 182. Beau Johnson is 1A, Toston may be our large back and has shown solid receiving skills. We have two Freshmen that may see time but let's see what happens in game one.

CC, imbedded in my original post was my outlook for the year 8-4.

MajorMike
08-19-2008, 01:17 PM
at Washington State - W
Houston - W
Missouri State - W
Troy - W
Texas A&M - W
at Missouri - L
Baylor - W
at Texas - L
Iowa State - W
at Texas Tech - L
at Colorado - W/L
Oklahoma - W/L

I see 7 for sure. In all W listed we will be favored. atm is in for a down year by all accounts and we will be favored. Also, by all accounts, the Buffs will be a decent team. Obviously these two could go either way and both are completely winable. Do I worry about atm? Sure I do. Do I worry about CU? Well... at this point I say yes simply because people say we should, but I don't know what they will actually do on the field. They managed to lose their entire final stretch last year. If we lose to ISU here we don't deserve a Bowl. And I will always believe that uo is a 50/50 at home.

The ONLY games I am saying a for certain on Ls are Mizzou, UT and ttek.

CaliforniaCowboy
08-19-2008, 01:51 PM
At running back, Spud leads off. Kendall Hunter, aka Spud. Remember last year Dantrell looked significantly larger than Kendall. I believe we listed Savage as 5'10 and North of 190. The Chiefs indicate that Savage has shrunk to 5'8" and 182. Beau Johnson is 1A, Toston may be our large back and has shown solid receiving skills. We have two Freshmen that may see time but let's see what happens in game one.
.

I read that the coaches are calling Staley, "Ron".

(i.e., Ron Dayne, that's how big he is compared to the other backs)

Vulgar Display of Orange
08-19-2008, 01:51 PM
By the same logic you present, we "should" have lost to Tech, Nebraska, and Kansas State last year as all three were favored in our games with them.

Btw, Iowa State is a home game and in NO WAY should we lose to them in Stillwater no matter who we play the week before. We should be a two touchdown favorite. Kansas won a BCS game and ISU is the Baylor of the north right now you can't compare the two.

Why would that matter? Nebraska we beat. K State we beat. Texas Tech lost to us. Didnt we lose to baylor not too long ago?

CaliforniaCowboy
08-19-2008, 01:56 PM
The ONLY games I am saying a for certain on Ls are Mizzou, UT and ttek.

I'm not "for certain" on Ls on any game... I don't think we can wil them all, but I don't see any of our games as a "certain Loss"... especially not Texas.

I'm pretty sure we'll surprise somebody (or two), which is not to say that we won't cough up one or two that we shouldn't have.

This leage is just to tough from 1-8 to place any game in the "certain loss" column, IMO.

osupsycho
08-19-2008, 02:47 PM
I gotta agree on Texas I can really see us going into Austin and finally getting the victory we have been so close to so many times. I think that they boys know they can beat them but now we have the reserves to stay in the game all 4 quarters at most positions.

Now Colorado does scare me and UO who knows...

But I have trouble seeing us go into Lubbock or Columbia and getting wins.

frankeaton
08-19-2008, 03:13 PM
I gotta agree on Texas I can really see us going into Austin and finally getting the victory we have been so close to so many times. I think that they boys know they can beat them but now we have the reserves to stay in the game all 4 quarters at most positions.


I agree, utexass's qb is hearing footsteps and they lost a bunch of good wr's
but they always have a top 5 recruiting:confused:

Rack
08-19-2008, 03:16 PM
Why would that matter? Nebraska we beat. K State we beat. Texas Tech lost to us. Didnt we lose to baylor not too long ago?

Yes, once since the Big 12 was formed in our 2005 slash and burn season. 2005 was a bust from day one and it was planned to be a bust. Gundy never said we would challenge for the Big 12 until year five (i.e. next year). Since he said that we would challenge next year, I'm thinking that means we should be VERY close this year as well. No offense to ISU, but they aren't close yet.

frankeaton
08-19-2008, 09:46 PM
Three frosh running backs impressive for BuffsRelated Information


Darrell Scott, left, and Ray Polk, right, are two of Colorado's three impressive freshman running backs.
By Mike Baldwin
Staff Writer
Nine days before Iowa State becomes the first Big 12 team to kick off the season, here are some August story lines from the 10 teams outside of Oklahoma:

•Colorado: Darrell Scott, the nation's top-rated high school running back, was projected to give Colorado's running game a huge lift. The surprise has been that three true freshmen running backs have impressed coaches.

Ray Polk and Rodney Stewart have run so well the Buffaloes might not redshirt any of their three freshmen backs. Polk, from Scottsdale, Ariz., was another highly ranked recruit. Stewart, from Westerville, Ohio, is undersized and is being labeled the steal of the class.

•Kansas: One of the biggest questions in Lawrence was who would replace Brandon McAnderson's 1,125 yards rushing. What's scary for defensive coordinators is that the Jayhawks might have upgraded with Jocques Crawford, the nation's leading junior-college rusher.

Jake Sharp ran for 821 yards last year backing up McAnderson. But Crawford provides breakaway speed. Crawford ran for 1,935 yards at Cisco (Texas.). He originally committed to Texas Tech, ran into some legal issues and resurfaced at Cisco.

•Nebraska: Coaching legend Tom Osborne went on record this month saying the primary reason he hired Bo Pelini over former Huskers star Turner Gill, the head coach at Buffalo, was Pelini's defensive expertise.

Nebraska finished 5-7 last season, only the second losing season in 45 years in Lincoln. Big 12 opponents averaged 512.0 yards and 42.4 points against the Cornhuskers. Nebraska could post the league's biggest turnaround if Pelini can work some defensive magic.

•Missouri: Blaine Gabbert, a 6-foot-5 true freshman from St. Louis, was rated the nation's top pro style quarterback by Rivals. Gabbert is projected to be the heir apparent to Heisman Trophy finalist Chase Daniel in 2009 but might not play this season.

With senior Chase Patton returning, coach Gary Pinkel might allow Gabbert to ease into the program. Patton has only 13 career pass attempts but knows the system. After suffering a minor injury in fall camp, Gabbert might redshirt.

•Texas Tech: Skeptics who scoff that the Red Raiders can't play good enough defense to compete for a Big 12 title haven't seen them play this fall or late last season. After losing 49-45 at Oklahoma State, coach Mike Leach switched defensive coordinators.
After Ruffin McNeill took over the following week, Tech led the Big 12 in total defense the last nine games of the season.

•Texas A&M: New head coach Mike Sherman named senior Stephen McGee his starting quarterback last week. McGee is viewed as an option quarterback because of how he was used by Dennis Franchione. What's forgotten is McGee threw for 3,579 yards, 47 touchdowns and only three interceptions his senior year in high school.

•Kansas State: There will be a lot of new faces in Manhattan. With running back Leon Patton indefinitely suspended, junior Keithen Valentine, who ran for more than 100 yards in the spring game, might start. Six of the 19 junior-college transfers signed — a few failed to qualify — might start the opener, including linebackers Ulla Pomele and Hanson Sekona.

•Baylor: New coach Art Briles hasn't announced his starting quarterback. Senior Kirby Freeman, who started seven games at Miami before transferring to Baylor, is competing against junior Blake Syzmanski, who threw for 2,844 yards and 22 touchdowns last season. Freshman Robert Griffin, who had a 56-yard touchdown run in a recent scrimmage, also is in the mix.

•Iowa State: The only other school with a quarterback controversy. The top two candidates are sophomores. Austen Arnaud, who was Bret Meyer's backup last season, was considered the favorite, but Phillip Bates has a shot. Bates was considered too good an athlete to redshirt last year, so he played wide receiver. It's a toss-up. Bates is making it a tough decision.

cut & pasting the daily rag is alot of work:ousucksnana:

MajorMike
08-20-2008, 08:36 AM
I'm not "for certain" on Ls on any game... I don't think we can wil them all, but I don't see any of our games as a "certain Loss"... especially not Texas.

Show me a reason to think differently and I will.

Vulgar Display of Orange
08-20-2008, 08:50 AM
Show me a reason to think differently and I will.

Ditto.

jbug
08-20-2008, 08:51 AM
Capt. - I fully understand where you're coming from.
I want the Pokes to win every game and I'd love to
see National media show us some love and respect.
But until the boys and coaches actually go and do it
and then start to repeat, I'll always have the feeling
that it should be at least better.
And just maybe that is what a lot of the recruits
that have rejected our offers also think????

GoPokes83
08-20-2008, 12:30 PM
It's time to shit or get off the pot.

Anything less than 8 - 4 is a bust in my opinion. I'm tired of hearing "wait til next year."

Such ugly words to come from such a beautiful mouth, but I agree wholeheartedly. It's time for Gundy to prove he's worthy of his position. I don't want to be 6 years in and still waiting to see if he's got what it takes. Produce this year or move it along. There are too many proven winning coaches out there who would jump at the chance to make an impact in the B12.

I'm not anti Mike Gundy, I'm pro OSU

buster t daddy
08-21-2008, 07:40 PM
Capt. - I fully understand where you're coming from.
I want the Pokes to win every game and I'd love to
see National media show us some love and respect.
But until the boys and coaches actually go and do it
and then start to repeat, I'll always have the feeling
that it should be at least better.
And just maybe that is what a lot of the recruits
that have rejected our offers also think????

I concurr with that statement , Jbug, I think osu's recruiting is better at some positions but have declined at a couple of other positions.

I beleive that at qb, wr, and oline and maybe de we are improving in recruiting but I think since lester left our recruiting of dts has been questionable. would you guys disagree with that.

:cowboy:

Boss 24
08-21-2008, 07:57 PM
I disagree with 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of what you say Tbone40. But welcome back anyway

legelegel
08-21-2008, 11:16 PM
5 - 7. Prove me wrong Gundy.


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Lewis the Pike
12-09-2008, 09:48 PM
9-3....or better. We are the new Kansas this season!!!!!!!!!!!!:music-smiley-005:

Props to Cactus Jack on calling the shot!!!!

OSUFan
12-09-2008, 10:59 PM
Props to Cactus Jack on calling the shot!!!!

Do I get a consolation prize for predicting 10-2? If we had just beaten Texas... arghhhhh!

CowboyJD
12-10-2008, 05:41 AM
5 - 7. Prove me wrong Gundy.


Guess he did, didn't he?

osupride97
12-10-2008, 06:31 AM
It's time to shit or get off the pot.

Anything less than 8 - 4 is a bust in my opinion. I'm tired of hearing "wait til next year."


Yeahhhhh!!!! It wasn't a bust!

But we still have to wait until next year to get the championship! :)

rodbakeriii
12-10-2008, 06:50 AM
Guess he did, didn't he?

Laughed while reading this one. hahahahaha....

Vulgar Display of Orange
12-10-2008, 06:52 AM
Yes and I couldn't be happier.

CaliforniaCowboy
12-10-2008, 10:03 AM
IMO, Vulgar and DNA owe Gundy and the team an apology, and owe us an apology for having to put up with their pessimism and negativity.

bleedorange
12-10-2008, 10:15 AM
5 - 7. Prove me wrong Gundy.

He has, two years in a row.

Three years in a row.

Vulgar Display of Orange
12-10-2008, 10:55 AM
IMO, Vulgar and DNA owe Gundy and the team an apology, and owe us an apology for having to put up with their pessimism and negativity.

That's going to happen...

MajorMike
12-10-2008, 10:56 AM
IMO, Vulgar and DNA owe Gundy and the team an apology, and owe us an apology for having to put up with their pessimism and negativity.

You are always such a breath of fresh air.

osupsycho
12-10-2008, 11:02 AM
I gotta agree on Texas I can really see us going into Austin and finally getting the victory we have been so close to so many times. I think that they boys know they can beat them but now we have the reserves to stay in the game all 4 quarters at most positions.

Now Colorado does scare me and UO who knows...

But I have trouble seeing us go into Lubbock or Columbia and getting wins.

Well I was close on UT but no cigar (again....). CU still scared me even right up to the game as it was such a trap but the boys did well. Spot on in Lubbock but off for Mizzou.

Now it is time to cook some ducks!!!!!

Erick
12-10-2008, 12:05 PM
Compliments from the Coach:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_e_mQyEx3fbA/R7DAhrW1qtI/AAAAAAAAAfk/Tz32IwVXsPw/s1600/EatCrow.jpg

Lewis the Pike
12-10-2008, 12:29 PM
You are always such a breath of fresh air.

:officechair:

CaliforniaCowboy
12-10-2008, 01:46 PM
You are always such a breath of fresh air.

:huh:

Well then, perhaps they should be required to list their prognosticating success of this year in each and every prediction that they make about next year's team.

Vulgar Display of Orange
12-10-2008, 02:05 PM
:huh:

Well then, perhaps they should be required to list their prognosticating success of this year in each and every prediction that they make about next year's team.

I love it when you talk dirty.

Lewis the Pike
12-10-2008, 02:31 PM
Funny, CactusJack got it right on point, that's all I was pointing out....


...and then the "calling out" ensues. My bad should of known better

CowboyJD
12-10-2008, 09:28 PM
Yes and I couldn't be happier.

Yeah, this just OOZES happiness. :rollseyes: