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Cowboy76
06-24-2008, 08:54 PM
Since a little reminder pops up that I have not posted in a while, I thought I would pass this along.

Just happened to make it to the Altus caravan. The steaks were AWESOME! My compliments to the cooks(I had a few beers with a couple of them so I got my steak custom cooked). Keynote men of interest who were there from OSU were Dave Hunziker, Craig Clemons, Mike Holder, Travis Ford and Tim Beckman. Ford was charismatic in his presentation and will provide a fresh breath of leadership to the program. He seems no nonsense on the court but more like a big brother off the court. He commented on Eaton's weight situation. They weigh him everyday. He started at 240, dropped to 227, back up to 236, down to 230 and then up again after a Sunday off. Ford said "that's it. Starting right now, every time you come in heavier than the day before, your workout routine doubles for that day." Byron has been losing about a pound a day since then. Ford really likes Paige and expects him to play a LOT. He has Paige working on quickness. He did not make a whole lot of comment about other players unless asked. Of course, a question about TH came up and he expects him to return.

He did nt make any promises about the upcoming season but said that his goal is to make OSU the type of program that can "choose" who it wants to come play for us. In other words, top players will want to come here and we can cherry pick the best.

Beckman went over each position group very thoroughly. Sounds like we will be much better in the DL thanks to more depth and better coaching. Two other OSU dignitaries also told me in private that Spencer was a BIG upgrade. Beckamn said the LB's were pretty bad last year and he took them as his special assignment for that reason. He did not sugar coat it. He said we need more talent at this position. He thinks Booker will contribute immediately. He also said Lemon has an NFL body but is just very green at the psoition. He really thinks the secondary will be improved. Young talent there but has tremendous upside. In private, he said OSU has only one player that could have started at Ohio State the last year he was there although he thinks our young defensive ends will be that good in a year or two. He said to expect an even better infusion of defensive talent next year.

After the meeting, I had to yank his chain. I ask him why defensive coordinators were so charitable. At first he thought I was refering just to OSU but when I told him that offensive coordinators are always talking about how they want to just take what the defense gives them, he got a chuckle. I told him to not give them NOTHIN'!!! He is very energetic and WILL get the job done.

All of the OSU dignitaries spurned the comfort of the air conditioning(it was 97 degrees when we got there) to come outside and talk with the guys cooking the steaks. I thought that was pretty cool.

Verb
06-24-2008, 09:46 PM
Thanks for the info. Man, I can't WAIT for football and basketball!!

BourbonPoke
06-25-2008, 05:40 AM
Nice recap for us 76. Appreciate you taking the time to let us knopw what the coaches had to say.

CowboyJD
06-25-2008, 05:48 AM
Thanks for the update.

Looks like Eaton and I are in a weight loss race to 205. I'm at 232 right now (down 48 lbs from my high), and I'm an inch taller than his "official" listed height.

andyokstate
06-25-2008, 06:59 AM
"In private, he said OSU has only one player that could have started at Ohio State the last year..."

Yeow! We have such a huge gap to cross. I'm glad to hear that we're inching up there, talent-wise. Thanks for the report, sir.

cactusjack
06-25-2008, 07:05 AM
He thinks "The Punisher" could start for tosu. He's gonna be so bad a__!

osupsycho
06-25-2008, 08:17 AM
"In private, he said OSU has only one player that could have started at Ohio State the last year..."

Yeow! We have such a huge gap to cross. I'm glad to hear that we're inching up there, talent-wise. Thanks for the report, sir.

Yes but remember that the tOSU team he is comparing us to was one of the best defensive units around. If we could end up having half a defensive squad that could have started for them in the next couple of years we will improve leaps and bounds.

wood911
06-25-2008, 09:51 AM
"In private, he said OSU has only one player that could have started at Ohio State the last year..."

I would like to disagree with this statement, but I'm not sure who I would name as a possibility. Out best defensive players were probably Sexton, Fountain, and Peterson with maybe Lacey and Woods thrown in. One or two of those guys might shock people if they were surrounded with the kind of talent tosu has. Offensively, it's hard to say Bowman, Savage, Robinson, Pettigrew, or Bryant could not have played for them. tosu probably has the talent to have red-shirted Bryant. I'm sure Beckman knows more than me, I just believe the talent is getting very close to a point it is no longer a valid excuse. The current talent is as good as I can remember since the Barry Sanders days across the board.
OSU has had people that could have played at tosu or anywhere else in recent years such as Charley Johnson, Billy Bajema, Vernand Morency, Tatum Bell, Kevin Williams, Darrant Williams. Maybe somebody will emerge (like Richetti, or Booker, or Sexton, or Tea, etc.) from this team and, hopefully, this year. Thanks for the update.

bleedorange
06-25-2008, 10:18 AM
I would like to disagree with this statement, but I'm not sure who I would name as a possibility.

Well yeah, we'd ALL like to disagree with this statement, but that doesn't make it so.

Being as he's coached both places and seen the talent close-up, I suspect what he says is very close to accurate, and makes perfect sense. Our defensive statistics support that notion as do tOSU's.

(I'm speaking defensively only, because my IMO, that's who Beckman was addressing with his statement)

Cowboy76
06-25-2008, 07:02 PM
Just to clarify, he was talking defensively and was refering to Antoine(which shocked the heck out of me considering he is a juco transfer). He also said Pettigrew and Okung could start for any team in the country. And he added we had some young defensive talent that may be at that level in a year or so. There is HOPE!!!

cactusjack
06-25-2008, 07:28 PM
Our defensive talent is young. One hopes they play like we think they can. We have many 4 star players all over the place.

Burton
Jones
Ugo
Tea
Martin
Johnson
Antoine
Gray
Booker
Cox
Anderson

etc, etc, etc,

All of these players were pursued by top tier schools. They just need coached up Timmy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:pete:

Poohness
06-26-2008, 06:14 PM
He commented on Eaton's weight situation. They weigh him everyday. He started at 240, dropped to 227, back up to 236, down to 230 and then up again after a Sunday off. Ford said "that's it. Starting right now, every time you come in heavier than the day before, your workout routine doubles for that day." Byron has been losing about a pound a day since then.

Wow. That's crazy. That can't be purely body fat and lean muscle alone. That has to be due to variations in water weight. Given that there are about 3000 calories in a pound, he would have to be eating 15,000 to 30,000 excess calories in a week to have that kind of variation. It's hard to even fathom that kind of caloric intake.

Even losing a pound of body fat a day is tough without losing muscle mass. It's Byron's last year so I hope he manages to get it under control.