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osupsycho
05-06-2008, 04:16 PM
OSU loses women's hoops scholarship

STILLWATER (AP) - Quick roster turnover helped Oklahoma State's women's basketball team go from the bottom of the Big 12 to the NCAA tournament. Now it will cost the Cowgirls a scholarship.

The NCAA ruled Tuesday that Oklahoma State can award only 14 scholarships in women's basketball next season, instead of the usual 15, because the program failed to meet academic progress rate, or APR, standards.

Oklahoma State's four-year APR of 914 was just shy of the 925 needed to avoid penalties, but it ranked among the bottom 10 percent of women's basketball teams. The Cowgirls were one of only 10 programs in the sport that were penalized by the NCAA.

Associate athletic director Marilyn Middlebrook said the low APR was a result of several players departing when coach Kurt Budke was hired and that all players who remained either graduated or are moving toward their degrees.

Five of the 13 players on the Cowgirls' roster for Julie Goodenough's final season as coach did not return when Budke took over as head coach prior to the 2006-07 season.

That put the Cowgirls in position to revamp the roster with the addition of players like Andrea Riley, Danielle Green and Maria Cordero, who helped take the team to the round of 16 in this year's NCAA tournament. It also put the team on weak footing with the APR.

Oklahoma State's baseball team also fell below the 925 benchmark but has received a waiver from the NCAA as it continues to raise its APR. The baseball team's mark of 877 was a 25-point increase over last year's number.

The school's other 15 programs were all in good standing, and the men's golf team recorded a perfect score of 1,000. Women's outdoor track (995), women's indoor track (993), men's cross country (992) and men's tennis (991) also had nearly perfect APRs.

The scores are calculated by giving teams one point for each athlete that stays in school and another for each athlete that remains academically eligible. The point totals are then divided by the team's maximum points possible to derive a score equivalent to a percentage.

"I would like to hit 1,000 on all of them but that's unrealistic, and we have to set realistic goals," Middlebrook said.

BigBadBen
05-06-2008, 04:26 PM
Well, that sucks

legelegel
05-06-2008, 04:29 PM
Golf must be a thinking man's game.

OSUSTORM
05-06-2008, 04:32 PM
The Man trying to keep us down.

legelegel
05-06-2008, 04:33 PM
Well, that sucks

At least the Cowgirls didn't cheat to win, and they did bring in a lightweight pugilist who wears no gloves.

OSUDentist
05-06-2008, 05:10 PM
Shouldn't the same thing occur with our men's team? Our APR for our men's team has to be pathetic.

pistolpete2002
05-06-2008, 06:30 PM
That sucks for our new team and Budke being punished for the lack luster job of the previous coaches!!!

FloridaPoke
05-06-2008, 10:18 PM
Stupid, stupid rule...........to punich Budke and crew for what the previous players did.

FYI, transfers themselves don't hurt the score.....but transfers that are not academically eligible when transfering do. So, evidently some of those transfers were not making the grade anyway.

jbug
05-07-2008, 07:31 AM
Boy, if this is true, or the way it is going to be, just think

what is going to happen to Indiana (men's BB after all the
kids that left when Calvin S screwed them over).

:ousucksnana::music-smiley-005:

OrangeCat
05-07-2008, 08:09 AM
Stupid, stupid rule...........to punich Budke and crew for what the previous players did.

FYI, transfers themselves don't hurt the score.....but transfers that are not academically eligible when transfering do. So, evidently some of those transfers were not making the grade anyway.

It is my understanding that transfers out hurt because "completion rate", i.e. going all the way through school & graduating w/i time limit is a component of APR and any transfer out that is academically ineligible also hurts.

Transfers in don't count for anything----even when they are Academic All-Americans like Danielle Green---which does hurt in a way because you score is based on a smaller pool of players (those who come as freshmen & stay till graduation).

FloridaPoke
05-07-2008, 09:26 AM
It is my understanding that transfers out hurt because "completion rate", i.e. going all the way through school & graduating w/i time limit is a component of APR and any transfer out that is academically ineligible also hurts.

Transfers in don't count for anything----even when they are Academic All-Americans like Danielle Green---which does hurt in a way because you score is based on a smaller pool of players (those who come as freshmen & stay till graduation).

I may be wrong, but I think "Transfers out" who are otherwise academically eligible and in good academic standing do not hurt the APR. Transfers out that are ineligible count the same as an academic failure. This is done to keep schools from encouraging transfers to avoid ineligibility statistics in the graduation rate.

FloridaPoke
05-07-2008, 09:39 AM
I may be wrong, but I think "Transfers out" who are otherwise academically eligible and in good academic standing do not hurt the APR. Transfers out that are ineligible count the same as an academic failure. This is done to keep schools from encouraging transfers to avoid ineligibility statistics in the graduation rate.

Correct that, we were both partially correct, partially wrong.

There are 2 points per term per athlete, one for eligibility, one for retention.

A transferring student (except certain limited circumstances) who is eligible would earn the institution 1 of 2 points (for eligibility, but not for retention).

A transferring student who is ineligible would earn the institution 0 of 2 points.

A student going pro, a sport being dropped entirely or a family crisis are examples where students leaving can earn both points for that term.

acefin
05-07-2008, 09:52 AM
That sucks for our new team and Budke being punished for the lack luster job of the previous coaches!!!


its a shame the osu cant sue the ncaa and conspire against the ncaa and form a new league . that would be funny if 20 or so teams formed a new league and they told the ncaa to go to hell.

Actually I wished that i could be the commissoner and could change a few rules . for i would eliminate this rule right off the bat.