When looking for a new coach...

[Lewis the Pike]

(Yes, I know Sean is the coach, until the AD de Facto decides he isn't the coach anymore)

Why are so many people on this board and many others terrified of a coach using State as a stepping stone??

If bigger and/or better schools want to hire our coaches, that is a good thing.

If they stay, it's a better thing.

When Les left us, for LSU, I think it gives us a little shine, because we gave him his first job.

When Leonard left us for Miami, well that didn't really matter, because we got Eddie!

When Jimmy left for Miami, that gave us some shine for being the school that took a chance on an architech of a dynasty.

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I just don't get why so many Okies are terrified of a guy leaving. I understand the Tulsa Bill Self comparison.No one wants to get Buzz Peterson-ed. But then again, they overreacted and got John Phillips, great guy, class guy, deep Tulsa roots. Horrible D-1 coach. Their program still hasn't recovered.

I just feel overall, as State fans, we should make a decision out of hope, not fear. (Whoah I just sounded like an Ill. Senator there...LOL)

[MemphisPoke]

Try to put yourself in the shoes of a high school senior. You have narrowed your choices to two schools that want your talent at playing basketball. One school (A) has a high profile coach from some other area of the country that is destined for bigger and better things. The other school (B) has a coach that is an alum and does not want, nor would take, another job. You feel that both coaches are great people and know the game and will be wonderful teachers if your desire is to take basketball to the next level.

Now you know in the back of your mind that if you sign with the coach at school A you may only have him as a coach for a year or two. Then who would you have? Someone of equal talent? Or the low bidder for a job? Or someone that doesn't like your style of play? There are cases of college players playing for 3 different coaches in four years.

Or you could sign with the coach at school B and pretty much be assured of starting and finishing with the same coach. A coach that would take you and develop you into a better player because he gets to work with you for four straight years. A coach that is in it for the long haul versus just to make a splash so he can get a job at some bigger school or maybe even his alma mater. Does the name Bobby Huggins ring a bell?

Why was Eddie so successful? Because he knew he wasn't going anywhere and the players that signed with him knew that also.

And I can assure you that with the talk about Capel bolting for the South Carolina job right now, it is being thrown up in the face of every high school senior that may be considering OU by recruiters of other schools.

The long term goal is to build a program with a solid foundation that high school coaches and players can trust. You can't build that foundation with a new coach every two or three years.

[Verb]

(Yes, I know Sean is the coach, until the AD de Facto decides he isn't the coach anymore)

Why is so many people on this board and many others terrified of a coach using State as a stepping stone??



I doesn't know why they is. I isn't! :D

[CaliforniaCowboy]

I doesn't know why they is. I isn't! :D

Me too.

I don't think LITP knows what he's actually saying...

Post again before the Margarita contest....

[OKState918]

Is a vote for Ron Paul a vote for an America in which children are taught proper syntax patterns?

[Lewis the Pike]

hahaha

poke at the mistakes all you want, before answering the question. It's fixed now!

by the way, i was posting from my sidekick, forgive me!

[Verb]

Sorry, Matt! I just couldn't resist. Anything for a yuk, right? :D

[Poohness]

Try to put yourself in the shoes of a high school senior. You have narrowed your choices to two schools that want your talent at playing basketball. One school (A) has a high profile coach from some other area of the country that is destined for bigger and better things. The other school (B) has a coach that is an alum and does not want, nor would take, another job. You feel that both coaches are great people and know the game and will be wonderful teachers if your desire is to take basketball to the next level.

Now you know in the back of your mind that if you sign with the coach at school A you may only have him as a coach for a year or two. Then who would you have? Someone of equal talent? Or the low bidder for a job? Or someone that doesn't like your style of play? There are cases of college players playing for 3 different coaches in four years.

Or you could sign with the coach at school B and pretty much be assured of starting and finishing with the same coach. A coach that would take you and develop you into a better player because he gets to work with you for four straight years. A coach that is in it for the long haul versus just to make a splash so he can get a job at some bigger school or maybe even his alma mater. Does the name Bobby Huggins ring a bell?

Why was Eddie so successful? Because he knew he wasn't going anywhere and the players that signed with him knew that also.

And I can assure you that with the talk about Capel bolting for the South Carolina job right now, it is being thrown up in the face of every high school senior that may be considering OU by recruiters of other schools.

The long term goal is to build a program with a solid foundation that high school coaches and players can trust. You can't build that foundation with a new coach every two or three years.

Agreed. How many recruits did Crapel lose at O-spew when Calvin departed? How did those K-State recruits feel when Huggins bolted? I prefer the continuity for long term success.

[OKState918]

by the way, i was posting from my sidekick, forgive me!

Hmm.... I was typing on an iPod Touch. Didn't seem to affect my posts :)

[Lewis the Pike]

Agreed. How many recruits did Crapel lose at O-spew when Calvin departed? How did those K-State recruits feel when Huggins bolted? I prefer the continuity for long term success.


Agree, with your point pooh, but I'd rather extended success as well.

I believe we are basketball destination job for the right coach.

Similar to Memphis for Calipari, Louisville for Pitino, Texas for Barnes, UCLA for Howland, etc. I believe it would take an NBA job to get them to leave their post.

I just feel if we limit our coaching search by the fear a coach MAY leave, you are not getting the best posiible candidate.