It doesn't sound like there is a $10,000 winner

[OSUFan]

I guess the guy stepped on the three-point line. A caller called into RA's show and was really giving RA and Kent Houck a hard time about not paying. I guess the insurance company is holding the cards now on if the kid wins or not but it doesn't sound like he is going to.

[andyokstate]

Oh, I thought the whole deal was that he had stepped on the half-court line. Too bad the agency didn't have a rep stop the guy after stepping on the three point line to give him another chance. So is the agency going to sue the kid to get back the prize they gave him after making the three point shot (what, $10?)?

[Verb]

Very, very bad PR move for that agency. Bet they lose business.

[BIGPETE]

This is not in response to any of the posts above, but I encourage everyone to not speculate too much about this. The only people that really know what has happened are the three parties involved. I do know that the Houck Agency did everything they could do to help the shooter receive the reward.

[pistolpete2002]

This is not in response to any of the posts above, but I encourage everyone to not speculate too much about this. The only people that really know what has happened are the three parties involved. I do know that the Houck Agency did everything they could do to help the shooter receive the reward.

I agree!!!! The Houck's are very very nice people and will do everything possible to help all parties involved.

[Pokevette]

Well, I'm sure the Houck's are very nice people...

But, the only way they can make right on this is to cut the check to the winner (in the event the insurance company fails to do so).

[OSUSTORM]

I thought his foot was on the line.

[BIGPETE]

Well, I'm sure the Houck's are very nice people...

But, the only way they can make right on this is to cut the check to the winner (in the event the insurance company fails to do so).

If he legitimately won and the insurance company was holding out, I would agree with you. However, according to the rules of the competition, he did not win.

[wickerbill]

If he legitimately won and the insurance company was holding out, I would agree with you. However, according to the rules of the competition, he did not win.

I agree, but they're losing in the court of public opinion and that's what really matters. It could end up costing them more than they're saving by not paying. Or maybe not.

[bleedorange]

I agree, but they're losing in the court of public opinion and that's what really matters. It could end up costing them more than they're saving by not paying. Or maybe not.

I am almost always of that opinion, but I would think that $10K would be a pretty big hit to the bank account of an independent agent who is technically not responsible for the loss.

[BIGPETE]

I agree, but they're losing in the court of public opinion and that's what really matters. It could end up costing them more than they're saving by not paying. Or maybe not.

The only reason they are losing in the court of public opinion is that people are quick to blame and don't wait to hear all of the facts!

[Inky29]

Yeah but the game was stopped prematurely thus not affording him the shot to win the money. The guy is getting screwed. The Houck agency needs to cut the check if the insurance company doesn't. He's the one getting screwed in this deal. It's a business expenses so just write it off and take the pub for being good guys. Unless there's a provision in the insurance policy that requires Houck agency not to pay in a situation like this than they should pay it.

[wickerbill]

If he had time to shoot again and they told him that he had won, then how do you tell him he didn't win? I wasn't there and haven't seen video so maybe that wasn't the case. It's like a sudden death overtime win being called and then the next day saying that it didn't actually happen.

[Pokevette]

If he was told he won, then he should be paid.

If there was some concern about the technicality of the contest, then that should have been ironed out before they told him he won.

The dude should get the cash. If the Houck's are putting their name on the contest, then they are obligated to make sure that happens.

[BIGPETE]

Remember Orange Peel a few years back when Sinbad gave the student an extra throw for the car? It's that same concept, just a different rule!

The student didn't get the car either.

[WyomingOSUAlum]

Who exactly told the guy he had won when he really didn't?

[OSUFan]

I've got a solution. Let the guy have 17 seconds or whatever was left on the clock and let him shoot the three-pointer and half-court shot over again. If makes both of them this time, the $10,000 is his. Seems like that would be a fair solution since the guy really didn't win and it would appease those who don't think the guy got a fair shake.

[OSUSTORM]

Cory Williams' toe was on the line too. We only got two points to tie and forced it to overtime which we lost. I believe that toe could have cost us a national championship.

I saw the guy's toe on the line when he shot and I knew right then he didn't really win.

[cactusjack]

Who exactly told the guy he had won when he really didn't?

BigPete did. He ran out there an hugged him and said "on behalf of OSU, I deem you winner of 10 grand".

[AnniePokely]

Cory Williams' toe was on the line too. We only got two points to tie and forced it to overtime which we lost. I believe that toe could have cost us a national championship.

I saw the guy's toe on the line when he shot and I knew right then he didn't really win.



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Get a rope

[jakeman]

They need to just do away with this contest.

[JimBob]

The insurance company screwed a customer; it just happened to be an insurance agency who sells insurance to customers that will get screwed by the insurance company. Insurance companies are in business to make money for their shareholders; claims are secondary. Sounds like justice to me.

Note to Lonnie: next time, don't step on the line.:D

[Poke-head]

If he was told he won, then he should be paid.

If there was some concern about the technicality of the contest, then that should have been ironed out before they told him he won.

The dude should get the cash. If the Houck's are putting their name on the contest, then they are obligated to make sure that happens.

Yes, he was told that he won by Kent and obvisouly by the crowd/announcer that he won.
The game is sponcered by the Houck Agency and therefore should be paying the winnings. The insruance is to cover the agency's loss if the person actually makes the shots, not to pay the person who makes the shots. He took out a policy with a company that specalizes in this. If your worried about the money then don't gamble it.
Big pete, if he's such a good man then he should stand by his word and pay the winner. "you will know them by thier actions"

[bigbadbob]

Man, I am surprised at the venom of people mad about this...

The guy did not win...he technically cheated. Maybe not on purpose, but still. The insurance company that was supposed to pay the 10K, no way they pay if the guy didn't follow the rules.

And then to try to say to a small businessman that he has to pay that kind of money out of his pocket because of something that was no fault of his own is silly and unfair.

Someone has to lose here, why shouldn't it be the guy that didn't follow the rules?

[fifrat]

Mario Boggan stepped on the line in the triple overtime game against Texas and was still awarded 3 points. I know 2 points would have won it but the record books say it was a 3 pointer. Doesn't it?

[andyokstate]

At least in a game, it's decided on the spot (at most, a minute or two later after video review). I agree with Jakeman, dump these big money things so stuff like this doesn't happen. Or do a much better job 'officiating' it. Most of the time, they play with really loose rules, especially when the pot is low ("Ooh, free burgers at McDonald's!"). The clock buzzes, but the contestant is just about ready to shoot, "go ahead and do it!"

Just bring back the spinning your head on a bat for a chance to look stupid contests.

[OSUFan]

Bring back the drum corp and let their performance fill the halftime.

[AustinPokeFan]

The determination should have been made immediately after the shot was sunk, and before he was declared a winner. He got seriously jobbed.