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MemphisPoke
02-06-2008, 12:15 PM
I'm sorry if this has already been posted but this has really got my shorts twisted.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1630

Marines Attacked in Berkeley, CA
By OnTheWeb Wednesday, January 30, 2008


SAN FRANCISCO – The City of Berkeley, California has passed two resolutions attacking the United States Marine Corps, calling the Marines, “uninvited and unwelcome intruders in the city.”

The Berkeley City Council voted to condemn the Marines on Tuesday night (January 29th) as part of a campaign by anti-war activists to shut down a U.S. Marine Recruiting Center located in the city of Berkeley.

The votes by the Berkeley City Council were immediately condemned by Move America Forward (website: http://www.MoveAmericaForward.org), the nation’s largest grassroots pro-troop organization.

“It is disgraceful that in the birthplace of the Free Speech Movement, anti-military activists would attempt to silence the same military men and women who serve this country and give their lives to protect the free speech rights of all Americans, including these ungrateful and despicable people on the Berkeley City Council,” said Melanie Morgan, Chairman of Move America Forward.

The actions by the Berkeley City Council followed continuous protests by Code Pink and other anti-military organizations that vandalized and defaced the U.S. Marine Recruiting Center in September 2007.

One of the two resolutions passed by the Berkeley City Council last night granted a parking spot in front of the Marine Recruiting Center to be used by anti-military activists to harass Marine recruiters. The anti-military activists would not need to apply for a sound permit for the next six months – allowing them free reign to disrupt the day-to-day operations by the Marines.





What an absolute CROCK OF S#!&. Can we ship Berkeley as a whole to some deserving country. Iran maybe or Somilia.

Lewis the Pike
02-06-2008, 12:25 PM
EDITED:

Lewis, rephrase your comment so it doesnt come off as a personal attack against a fellow OSS member. Personal Attacks are not allowed.

You know better.

Lets all play nice!

No problem

How very intolerent of you Memphis! Do you actually think if someone disagrees with this travesty of a war, they should be shipped to another country?

MemphisPoke
02-06-2008, 02:23 PM
No Lewis.

What I believe is that this is a country which has a volunteer military that on numerous occasions through out this young nations history has defended this country and others against a variety of aggressors.

What I also believe is that because of the military those same council people have the right (under our constitution) to govern themselves and pass measures that they deem fit. And this would include the request of the military to remove their recruiting station from their town.

I also believe that it goes beyond the scope of normal behavior for them to allow a free (and apparently reserved) parking spot in front of the recruiting station and allow a 6 month license (for public speech and from other websites the use of a bullhorn) for the group that wants to (apparently) shout down and harasss the recruiters who are in fact just doing their assignment. If you say "freedom of speech" for them then you also have to say "freedom of speech" for the recruiters.

I don't believe that I ever said, in my original post, anything about the current war.

The point of my initial post was that these people, who enjoy the freedoms guaranteed by the constitution and preserved by the very lives and blood of many "Marines" (that came before these recruiters) want to have it, if you will, both ways.

If they are in fact so set in turning their back on a branch of the federal government then they should in fact go all the way. The township of Berkeley needs to refuse any federal monies for things like roads, buildings, headstart progams, welfare assistance, food stamps, etc.

Lewis, if you want to be anti-war then it is your right. If they want to be anti-war then it is their right. But to "slap" your own government in the face by allowing parking spaces and unlimited public speaking rights to those that are against the war WHILE passing an ordinance that the recruiters close their office and forego their assignments is just a little bit much.

And if I, as an American, think that these people do not appreciate their heritage and what has been sacrificed so they can enjoy the freedoms they do and would like to see them moved to another country where they can be just a liberal as they want to be.........well, hey it is my right also.


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Lewis the Pike
02-06-2008, 02:56 PM
all good, agree to disagree

Pokes4Life
02-07-2008, 08:10 AM
The Feds fight back:

http://www.ktvu.com/news/15240235/detail.html

"Berkeley Could Lose Funding Over Anti-Marine Stance

POSTED: 9:31 pm PST February 6, 2008
UPDATED: 10:55 pm PST February 6, 2008

BERKELEY, Calif. -- Republicans in Congress are playing hardball with Berkeley after the liberal city council issued a declaration urging the U.S. Marines to move its recruitment office out of the East Bay college town last week. Now conservative lawmakers are fighting back with legislation that could eliminate millions of dollars in funding for UC Berkeley and a variety of city programs.

The controversy erupted last week after the City Council passed an item condemning the Marines' downtown recruiting center on Shattuck Avenue. The item told the U.S. Marines that if its recruiters choose to stay in their rented downtown space "they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests."

A small band of GOP lawmakers is fighting back with legislation that could eliminate millions of dollars for UC Berkeley, public safety programs, a new ferry service, and the Alice Waters foundation, an organization that provides lunches to public schools.

It was quiet Wednesday evening in front of the Marine Corps recruiting station on Shattuck in Berkeley, but the battle between city officials and the federal government is escalating.

An anti-war protest vehicle remains parked in front of the recruiting station, and now some republicans are retaliating by trying to slash $2.3 million in federal funds from several Berkeley programs after the city council voted last week to ask the Marines to leave.

Wednesday night, Berkeley's Mayor Tom Bates backed down from those earlier calls for the Marines to hit the road.

"We went too far when we passed [the resolution]. We said things we probably shouldn't have said," explains the mayor.

Pictures of the vocal protests that took place in front of the Marine Corps recruiting office from last week's demonstration infuriated some members of Congress.

Republican South Carolina Senator Jim Demint was among those angered. "Patriotic American taxpayers won't sit quietly while Berkeley insults our brave marines and tries to run them out of town, and the city doesn't deserve a single dime of special pet project handouts," said Senator Demint in a statement.

Senator Demint has joined forces with five other Republican senators and an Orange County representative to introduce companion bills called the Semper Fi Act of 2008.

One cut amounting to almost a quarter million dollars would impact the Chez Paniesse Foundation, which helps provide school meals to thousands of Berkeley public school students. Not surprisingly, Berkeley residents are shocked that the proposed legislation would go to such lengths.

"If you want to give a slap on the hand of a community because of their opinion and viewpoint, that in itself is questionable. But to attack our children to do that is absolutely unconscionable," said Berkeley School District spokesman Mark Coplan.

On the streets of Berkeley Wednesday night, many people said Berkeley city leaders went too far in their anti-war efforts.

"I'm against war, but I think if we didn't have the Marines we'd probably be all be speaking German," said Ralph Kratz of Richmond.

"I think Berkeley has a right to their opinion and I think the Marine Corps does too. I don't think federal funding has anything to do with whether there's recruitment or not," said San Leandro resident Ed Shapiro.

Mayor Tom Bates says he hopes the city can clarify it's position: "I'm not saying we're anti-Marines or anti armed forces. We're just trying to set the record straight that we're against this war. We think it's illegal. We think it's immoral. We think it's wrong and we think we've been lied to. We want this war to be over."

The showdown between Berkeley's city council and its critics comes to a head on Tuesday when the city council will vote again whether or not to urge the Marines to leave. Some council members appear to be softening their positions.

A pro-military group called Move America Forward says it will hold an all-day protest in front of City Hall the try to get Berkeley to back down."

Lewis the Pike
02-07-2008, 12:30 PM
Have you guys been to Berkley?? It's not like it looks the Federal Government has been handing over money very generously anyway.

If the money the city recieves is from Berkley area tax revenue. Then, that sounds like Taxation without Representation", Where was that from??

WyomingOSUAlum
02-07-2008, 01:10 PM
They don't have congressional representation? Sure they do!

WyomingOSUAlum
02-07-2008, 01:15 PM
Mayor Tom Bates says he hopes the city can clarify it's position: "I'm not saying we're anti-Marines or anti armed forces. We're just trying to set the record straight that we're against this war. We think it's illegal. We think it's immoral. We think it's wrong and we think we've been lied to. We want this war to be over."



I think Tom Bates is a moron.

(I don't think he's a moron based upon his anti-war beliefs. I think he's a moron for not passing a resolution which stated what he just said. If that's his belief, then fine. Say what you mean instead of passing a resolution which says something else.)

To reiterate, I think Tom Bates is a moron.

And in conclusion, Tom Bates is a moron.

Thank you.


P.S.,
Mayor Tom Bates is a moron.

WyomingOSUAlum
02-07-2008, 01:21 PM
Have you guys been to Berkley?? It's not like it looks the Federal Government has been handing over money very generously anyway.




http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327466,00.html

DeMint said he will draft legislation to rescind any earmarks dedicated for the City of Berkeley in the recently passed appropriations bill — which his office tallied to value about $2.1 million. He said that any money taken back would be transferred to the Marines.

DeMint's office provided a preliminary list of items that would be subject to his proposal:

— $975,000 for the University of California at Berkeley, for the Matsui Center for Politics and Public Service, which may include establishing an endowment, and for cataloguing the papers of Congressman Robert Matsui.

— $750,000 for the Berkeley/Albana ferry service.

— $243,000 for the Chez Panisse Foundation, for a school lunch initiative to integrate lessons about wellness, sustainability and nutrition into the academic curriculum.

— $94,000 for a Berkeley public safety interoperability program.

— $87,000 for the Berkeley Unified School District, nutrition education program.

FloridaPoke
02-07-2008, 04:08 PM
No Lewis.

What I believe is that this is a country which has a volunteer military that on numerous occasions through out this young nations history has defended this country and others against a variety of aggressors.

What I also believe is that because of the military those same council people have the right (under our constitution) to govern themselves and pass measures that they deem fit. And this would include the request of the military to remove their recruiting station from their town.

I also believe that it goes beyond the scope of normal behavior for them to allow a free (and apparently reserved) parking spot in front of the recruiting station and allow a 6 month license (for public speech and from other websites the use of a bullhorn) for the group that wants to (apparently) shout down and harasss the recruiters who are in fact just doing their assignment. If you say "freedom of speech" for them then you also have to say "freedom of speech" for the recruiters.

I don't believe that I ever said, in my original post, anything about the current war.

The point of my initial post was that these people, who enjoy the freedoms guaranteed by the constitution and preserved by the very lives and blood of many "Marines" (that came before these recruiters) want to have it, if you will, both ways.

If they are in fact so set in turning their back on a branch of the federal government then they should in fact go all the way. The township of Berkeley needs to refuse any federal monies for things like roads, buildings, headstart progams, welfare assistance, food stamps, etc.

Lewis, if you want to be anti-war then it is your right. If they want to be anti-war then it is their right. But to "slap" your own government in the face by allowing parking spaces and unlimited public speaking rights to those that are against the war WHILE passing an ordinance that the recruiters close their office and forego their assignments is just a little bit much.

And if I, as an American, think that these people do not appreciate their heritage and what has been sacrificed so they can enjoy the freedoms they do and would like to see them moved to another country where they can be just a liberal as they want to be.........well, hey it is my right also.


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Agree to disagree?

I would like to know what "specifically" anybody could disagree with in this post, which has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone's stance on the war.

Lewis the Pike
02-07-2008, 04:32 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327466,00.html

DeMint said he will draft legislation to rescind any earmarks dedicated for the City of Berkeley in the recently passed appropriations bill — which his office tallied to value about $2.1 million. He said that any money taken back would be transferred to the Marines.

DeMint's office provided a preliminary list of items that would be subject to his proposal:

— $975,000 for the University of California at Berkeley, for the Matsui Center for Politics and Public Service, which may include establishing an endowment, and for cataloguing the papers of Congressman Robert Matsui.

— $750,000 for the Berkeley/Albana ferry service.

— $243,000 for the Chez Panisse Foundation, for a school lunch initiative to integrate lessons about wellness, sustainability and nutrition into the academic curriculum.

— $94,000 for a Berkeley public safety interoperability program.

— $87,000 for the Berkeley Unified School District, nutrition education program.


awesome, I'm sure the residents of Berkley would love to be excused from paying/wasting Federal taxes, since they will in a sense be treated like the Amish

WyomingOSUAlum
02-07-2008, 05:57 PM
I don't understand the comparison to the Amish.

Is there a lesson here? I think there is. I doubt that the money will be withheld, but the fact that Mayor Moron is backing down tells me that he has learned something here.

JimBob
02-07-2008, 06:39 PM
I don't understand the comparison to the Amish.

Is there a lesson here? I think there is. I doubt that the money will be withheld, but the fact that Mayor Moron is backing down tells me that he has learned something here.

Alligator mouth overloaded his hummingbird @ss.

jakeman
02-07-2008, 10:01 PM
Not surprisingly, Berkeley residents are shocked that the proposed legislation would go to such lengths.

Are they now? Just exactly what the hell did they think was gonna happen? Berkeley residents should let their council members know how they feel at the polls in the next municipal election. And if they support these same people at the polls, they will get exactly what they have coming to them, and so richly deserve.

"If you want to give a slap on the hand of a community because of their opinion and viewpoint, that in itself is questionable. But to attack our children to do that is absolutely unconscionable," said Berkeley School District spokesman Mark Coplan.

If Mr. Coplan is outraged, he should attend the next council meeting and address the folks that caused these sanctions to befall his school system.

On the streets of Berkeley Wednesday night, many people said Berkeley city leaders went too far in their anti-war efforts.

"I'm against war, but I think if we didn't have the Marines we'd probably be all be speaking German," said Ralph Kratz of Richmond.

"I think Berkeley has a right to their opinion and I think the Marine Corps does too. I don't think federal funding has anything to do with whether there's recruitment or not," said San Leandro resident Ed Shapiro.

I think Mr. Kratz may be on to something. I think Mr. Shapiro has missed the point completely.

Mayor Tom Bates says he hopes the city can clarify it's position: "I'm not saying we're anti-Marines or anti armed forces.

Really? I think Mayor Moron should re-read the resolution he and his esteemed council passed.

We're just trying to set the record straight that we're against this war.

Lots, and lots, and lots of ways to make sure people understand that without attacking a branch of this country's Armed Services with ill advised municipal resolutions.

We think it's illegal.

Really. So this conflict didn't have the implicit approval of a majority of this country's duly elected congress? The troop surge wasn't explicitly approved, after due debate and consideration of that exact same Congressional body? The funding for that surge wasn't specifically approved by that exact same legislative body? Just exactly which law does this dumbass think has been broken? I'd like a citation if Mayor McIdiot can provide one.

We think it's immoral.

You wanna name me a war, since the beginning of time that isn't on some level immoral. Soldiers purposefully kill other human beings, by the tens and hundreds of thousands sometimes. Maybe this fool should consider what a war consists of.

We think it's wrong and we think we've been lied to.

Cry me a river. He sounds like a 9 year old.

We want this war to be over."

As does everyone I know.

The showdown between Berkeley's city council and its critics comes to a head on Tuesday when the city council will vote again whether or not to urge the Marines to leave. Some council members appear to be softening their positions.

Appear to be softening? Ya think?

A pro-military group called Move America Forward says it will hold an all-day protest in front of City Hall the try to get Berkeley to back down."

Good for them. I hope they don't get un-invited to town.


It never ceases to amaze me when people do outrageous things and conduct themselves in an outrageous manner, and then are outraged when someone holds them responsible for their outrageousness. Complete f#$@&*^g idiots. Each and every person on that council that voted for these resolutions, and each and every citizen that supports those same councilmen. They are certainly entitled to vote their conscience, but when their ego overloads their reality, they shouldn't be shocked.

frankeaton
02-07-2008, 10:42 PM
hey Florida, welcome aboard, have missed your insites:D

WyomingOSUAlum
02-07-2008, 10:47 PM
Jakeman,

Nice rant !!!

That is all. Carry on.

panhandler62
02-08-2008, 07:17 AM
For the record:

I object to the continuation of the war in Iraq.
I also object to the actions of the Berkeley City Council.

If a young man or woman has the courage to stand at the gate and say, "Nothing bad will come through on my watch." then I give them my unconditional support even when I do not think their CinC has stationed them at the correct gate.

Protesting at the recruitment office is like registering your distress with paper cuts by burning bandaids.

MemphisPoke
02-08-2008, 10:03 AM
For the record:

I object to the continuation of the war in Iraq.
I also object to the actions of the Berkeley City Council.

If a young man or woman has the courage to stand at the gate and say, "Nothing bad will come through on my watch." then I give them my unconditional support even when I do not think their CinC has stationed them at the correct gate.

Protesting at the recruitment office is like registering your distress with paper cuts by burning bandaids.


I like that Keith.....burning band-aids.:D

WyomingOSUAlum
02-08-2008, 11:12 AM
Exactly. If you're going to be pissed at somebody, be pissed at them. That's fine. But don't take it out on somebody else, unless you want to feel the wrath.

Lewis the Pike
02-08-2008, 12:19 PM
we are nearing 4,000 US military fatalaties. Tens of thousands of casualties.

It's a public safety issue. There is no way in hell I'd sign up for this war.

The city of Berkeley is trying to protect it's residents from dying for an illegal war.

WyomingOSUAlum
02-08-2008, 12:59 PM
we are nearing 4,000 US military fatalaties. Tens of thousands of casualties.

It's a public safety issue. There is no way in hell I'd sign up for this war.

The city of Berkeley is trying to protect it's residents from dying for an illegal war.



It's called FREEDOM, Lewis. Are they going to try to stop people from voluntarily signing up to be police officers or coal miners next?

Pokes_Rock
02-08-2008, 01:03 PM
There is no way in hell I'd sign up for this war.

The city of Berkeley is trying to protect it's residents from dying for an illegal war.


So now it is up to the city governments of America to make our decisions for us? For every person like you, who has the same belief in the war, and there is no way in hell that they would sign up for the war, there is probably another person with just the opposite feelings. They have 3 generations of family before them that fought for the freedom's of this country and there is no way in hell that you are going to keep them from signing up for the war.


I guess the other alternative is to do away with the voluntary military and go back to the days of the draft. At least this way, the young men and women have a choice as to whether they sign up. The recruiters are just there to help the ones that want to sign up, not to force you to sign up.

Lewis the Pike
02-08-2008, 02:09 PM
So now it is up to the city governments of America to make our decisions for us? For every person like you, who has the same belief in the war, and there is no way in hell that they would sign up for the war, there is probably another person with just the opposite feelings. They have 3 generations of family before them that fought for the freedom's of this country and there is no way in hell that you are going to keep them from signing up for the war.


Actually, After 9/11 I was about to sign up for the Army. I wanted to help in the fight in Afghanistan. My mother persueded me not to, and looking back, she may have saved my life.

I believe we should draft. Then, our leaders would take serious thought before risking the precious lives of our military.

WyomingOSUAlum
02-08-2008, 02:33 PM
Great. Let's draft police officers, too.

legelegel
02-09-2008, 12:31 AM
Actually, After 9/11 I was about to sign up for the Army. I wanted to help in the fight in Afghanistan. My mother persueded me not to, and looking back, she may have saved my life.

I believe we should draft. Then, our leaders would take serious thought before risking the precious lives of our military.

Lewis, that is about the most disgusting statement that I have read in a long time.

legelegel
02-09-2008, 12:44 AM
Lewis, during the America Civil War you could have bought your way out of the draft and saved your life. I don't think anyone back then thought a draftee's life was more valuable.

Look at these numbers if you think close to 4,000 lives lost is a lot:

http://www.civilwarhome.com/casualties.htm

Verb
02-09-2008, 01:02 AM
4000 lives is plenty. Especially if your loved one is one of the 4000.

legelegel
02-09-2008, 01:17 AM
4000 lives is plenty. Especially if your loved one is one of the 4000.

Not arguing that. Life is valuable and so is freedom. Freedom being the most important thing in life to die for.

I took exception to the statement that a draft would some how put more value on a life lost and I still do.

Lewis the Pike
02-09-2008, 11:22 AM
Lewis, that is about the most disgusting statement that I have read in a long time.

Sorry you disagree, but I believe our political leaders actions, are speaking much louder than their words.

If there was a draft, the general public might think twice, before supporting illegal invasions into Iraq.



Wyoming, being a cop is a thankless job, i hope they never have to draft you guys. Although, it may be worse on the cops if there was a draft...the cops could draft me!

WyomingOSUAlum
02-09-2008, 02:05 PM
Sorry you disagree, but I believe our political leaders actions, are speaking much louder than their words.

If there was a draft, the general public might think twice, before supporting illegal invasions into Iraq.



Was the Iraq war more or less illegal than the war in Vietnam in your opinion? Did having a draft make JFK and LBJ think twice about sending troops there? Did having a draft make Truman think long and hard about sending troops to Korea?


I don't know if it did or it didn't. I guess in the long run it really didn't matter, since those three presidents did it anyway.


(Also, it's fair to point out that those two wars had nothing to do with our country being attacked.)

legelegel
02-09-2008, 03:56 PM
Sorry you disagree, but I believe our political leaders actions, are speaking much louder than their words.

If there was a draft, the general public might think twice, before supporting illegal invasions into Iraq.

Wyoming, being a cop is a thankless job, i hope they never have to draft you guys. Although, it may be worse on the cops if there was a draft...the cops could draft me!

Lewis, this is not exactly what you said in your earlier statement, but you continue to amaze me in your devaluing of a volunteer life.

panhandler62
02-09-2008, 07:36 PM
Soldiers, including recruiters, don't make the decision to go to war.

I suppose it will make me unpopular on this board, but I plan to regisiter my protest about what I consider to be the improper use of our military via my vote in November.

Back to Berkeley; I think private citizens have a right to tell others that they disagree with the war and suggest to thier peers that joining the armed forces might be a bad idea.

I do not think city government should take a position that esentialy puts them in conflict with oath bound employees of the federal government. My opinion is that the elected repesentatives of the people of the area should take up their argument back here in the east.

I mean, cripes; are you gonna pucnh the girl at the register at the Shell station to protest high gas prices?

WyomingOSUAlum
02-09-2008, 08:39 PM
I suppose it will make me unpopular on this board, but I plan to regisiter my protest about what I consider to be the improper use of our military via my vote in November.




No it won't. And I think your method of protest is the textbook example of how it's supposed to work.

Carry on.

JimBob
02-09-2008, 10:26 PM
mean, cripes; are you gonna pucnh the girl at the register at the Shell station to protest high gas prices?

If she's got a purty smile, two hooters, and a certificate of no STD's, hell yes.:D

MemphisPoke
02-10-2008, 07:18 AM
If she's got a purty smile, two hooters, and a certificate of no STD's, hell yes.:D


http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n70/Albounds/No.gif Only you JB, only you.

mejake007
02-10-2008, 09:28 AM
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n70/Albounds/No.gif Only you JB, only you.


ummm...well....

BigBadBen
02-10-2008, 11:38 AM
These "Berkley Types" were the same ones spitting on soilders and calling them baby killers, once they returned from Vietnam.

Its the same sentiment now, they have just changed their tactics.

This "illegal war" mantra is a joke.

frankeaton
02-15-2008, 10:13 PM
Berkeley to Marine Corps: You're Not Welcome

BERKELEY, Calif. Local officials in this liberal city say it's time for the U.S. Marines to move out.
The City Council has voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and "if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests."
The measure passed this week by a vote of 8-1.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327347,00.html
Contact the city council at Berkeley, CA via email: clerk@ci.berkeley.ca.us

Now check this out, here is a letter a businessman wrote to the Mayor of Berkeley

Is this a great country or what?

Dear Mayor Bates,

In that you and your city have chosen to gravely insult the brave men and women, who have indeed bought you that right with their blood, I am informing you that my company will no longer do business with any of our current suppliers located in the Berkeley , California metro area.
In that my company is in international resort real estate development, and do business with and am associated with, developers and investors worldwide, I am informing all of my contacts, associates and patrons that we will no longer do any business of any sort with anyone living in the Berkeley area.
In that we/MDG Resorts are currently building a state of the art mega-yacht marina, all of the suppliers of Marina equipment, all owners of Yachts , all suppliers of Yacht materials & supplies, all yacht brokers and all tangential yacht business purveyors will likewise be informed that we will not do any business whatsoever with anyone from the Berkeley area.
Likewise all suppliers of building materials, both interior and exterior, currently associated with any of our several resort developments (Brisamar 300+ villas and 200+ condos: Porto Hussong, www.portohussong.com 500+ condos, 180 slip mega-yacht marina) both of which I might add have international recognition by virtue of glowing reports in Robb Report, Wall Street Journal, Yacht World, Forbes.
I will likewise inform all of our investors, most of whom are very wealthy yacht owners, casino owners, high net worth international businessmen, of our decision to essentially boycott all products and providers located in, or associated with in any way whatsoever, Berkeley , Ca.
Trust me when I say that having been in the real estate development business for over 35 years, our list of contacts and associates is long and very, very impressive. We, and I personally, are going to recomend that they ALL along with us boycott your city, its purveyors, suppliers, and businesses and CHARITIES of every kind.
You have every right to choose to take the obnoxious anti-military stance you have taken, and as stated, that right was bought for you with the blood of better men than you.
I too have every right to do all that I can to insure that your city suffers consequences arising from that obnoxious, sickening stance.
Cordially,
Brian G Dennard
PrincipalDirector
Meridian Development Group, LLC
619 807 2444

jakeman
02-15-2008, 10:21 PM
Now check this out, here is a letter a businessman wrote to the Mayor of Berkeley

Is this a great country or what?

Dear Mayor Bates,

In that you and your city have chosen to gravely insult the brave men and women, who have indeed bought you that right with their blood, I am informing you that my company will no longer do business with any of our current suppliers located in the Berkeley , California metro area.
In that my company is in international resort real estate development, and do business with and am associated with, developers and investors worldwide, I am informing all of my contacts, associates and patrons that we will no longer do any business of any sort with anyone living in the Berkeley area.
In that we/MDG Resorts are currently building a state of the art mega-yacht marina, all of the suppliers of Marina equipment, all owners of Yachts , all suppliers of Yacht materials & supplies, all yacht brokers and all tangential yacht business purveyors will likewise be informed that we will not do any business whatsoever with anyone from the Berkeley area.
Likewise all suppliers of building materials, both interior and exterior, currently associated with any of our several resort developments (Brisamar 300+ villas and 200+ condos: Porto Hussong, www.portohussong.com (http://www.portohussong.com) 500+ condos, 180 slip mega-yacht marina) both of which I might add have international recognition by virtue of glowing reports in Robb Report, Wall Street Journal, Yacht World, Forbes.
I will likewise inform all of our investors, most of whom are very wealthy yacht owners, casino owners, high net worth international businessmen, of our decision to essentially boycott all products and providers located in, or associated with in any way whatsoever, Berkeley , Ca.
Trust me when I say that having been in the real estate development business for over 35 years, our list of contacts and associates is long and very, very impressive. We, and I personally, are going to recomend that they ALL along with us boycott your city, its purveyors, suppliers, and businesses and CHARITIES of every kind.
You have every right to choose to take the obnoxious anti-military stance you have taken, and as stated, that right was bought for you with the blood of better men than you.
I too have every right to do all that I can to insure that your city suffers consequences arising from that obnoxious, sickening stance.
Cordially,
Brian G Dennard
PrincipalDirector
Meridian Development Group, LLC
619 807 2444

In other words, " I'm gonna take a personal interest in seeing you suffer".

Wait, I think he said pretty much those exact words.

If I had a yacht, I'd park it in one of this dudes marinas.

Kudos to Mr. Dennard.