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CoachOSU
09-03-2009, 01:45 PM
The Coaches Breakdown is back once again for another year... trying to navigate all of this years games and at least attempt to give all the fine posters of OSS information needed to enjoy the game (what little I can provide).

Players to watch/account for:

UGA- 1. Cox (QB)- How will he handle his first game as the full time starter.. seems to be a decent QB who can manage the game, but not the type to drop 300 plus passing on you for 3 TD'S like other QB's we will face this year.. Coming out of the shadow of Matthew Stafford can be a lot of pressure only without National TV or the new stadium noise around him.
2. Samuel (RB)- Seems to be a reliable, tough Back who pounds out some tough yards... also not much starting experience... can he handle getting pounded for 50 plus plays??
3. O-Line - suppose to be a really nasty, solid bunch.. all return from last year... problem is that Stafford, Moreno, and Massaquoi (WR) anyone can look good with those studs...
4. A.J. Green- probably best athlete (imo) on the field for the Dawgs... home run threat at WR or RB at any time.


Matchups to Look for:

1. Dawgs O-Line vs. Cowboys D-Line- With a solid group upfront for the Dawgs.. how does OSU D-line handle the battles in the trenches? If OSU can take advantage of the new QB.. and penetrate the O-Line to get to him.. then it can make for a long day... if they can't ..then the Dawgs can certainly drive the field and has the athlete's to win.

2. Dez vs. DB's- Notice!!! Dez is a stuuuuuddddd. People are going to detail their defensive attack around containing him... Is the Dawg's going to double him up? Will they use a Zone defense to just try and cover area's and hope that anyone can pick him up?? If Dez can find some openings and be a solid homerun threat ... then OSU will have the Dawgs on their heels with both the run game and passing game.

3. Will a 2nd threat emerge for OSU? Do we have a #2 and #3 that can take some pressure off of Dez and make some key position catches? Who will take advantage of all the attention put on Dez by the defense? If no one can.. then double covering Dez with a man underneath and another defender over the top at all times could spell trouble for OSU's passing game...

4. OSU TE situation- Does losing Mosely really hurt OSU's TE play or does Youman step up and take advantage of the situation... I AM NOT SURE that most OSU fans realize how much we rely on the TE to make key blocks and become a key part of short yardage passing game.

5. Stadium Issues- Does the new stadium opening, along with the National TV, High expectations/rankings, and Highly regarded opponent cause OSU to lose it's focus or motivate them? It is a senior loaded team so one would think not, but we have folded before in the spotlight.

Other thing to consider: Redemption!!!! Does the Defense finally prove everyone wrong and show they can hang with all of the offenses in the Big 12 and in the Top 25..... ALSO.... I hope the game against the Dawgs from 2007 stays fresh in the boys mind... I hope they play like they want to give a little dose back to them.


Main Way to Win Saturday- GET TO COX... PUNISH THE NEW QB OFTEN AND EARLY.. make him start to get nervous and feel the pressure...force him into 3rd and longs where mistakes can happen.
Also, Zac needs to be a field general and lead the offense on long and short TD strikes.... Offense needs to set the tone for the year.

Note: Special teams needs to set up offense in good field postion and pin the Dawgs deep in their territory... I call for a big Special Teams play to happen.


Final Prediction:

OSU- 34
Dawgs-24

Dawgs hang in until halftime make it tight... but Zac and experienced Offense hits on all pistons and scores after some early game gitters...


Wish us luck tomorrow .. got a tough game against a bigger school.

andyokstate
09-03-2009, 02:14 PM
Good writeup, thanks!

I'm curious what you think will happen with Dawgs O-Line vs. Cowboys D-Line. Do you think we have improved enough in front to cause some disruptions with those monsters...and make it a long day for them and their QB?

CoachOSU
09-03-2009, 03:17 PM
well that depends on which D-Line shows up...

Is it the D-Line that had members like (Blatnick, Jones) that were highly recruited and had every school in the Big 12 drooling over their abilities or is it the D-Line that seems to at times lose focus and get injuried a lot?? Who knows...

However, I do think the talent is there to compete with a really good O-Line like the Dawgs have... I think the knowledge is there.. but you know what they say about potential.... means you haven't done anything yet...

They have the POTENTIAL to be a great D-Line... however, will it happen the first game.. hard to say... If they can put some pressure on Cox.. then that is winner- winner--chicken dinner as far as OSU chance of winning.

FloridaPoke
09-03-2009, 04:29 PM
I think depth and conditioning will tell it all in the fourth quarter. So many times, we have played well against top recruiting teams for 3 quarters, but simply ran out of gas in the 4th. Are we deeper now in the trenches? Yes. Are we as deep as Georgia? I don't think so. I think we are better than Georgia at the skill positions. I think our O-line trench is as good as theirs, if not better. I worry about our front 7 depth on the D side of the ball heading into the 4th, after UGA coach pounds them relentlessly.

Which brings up a key question for you Coach. Do we have a corner (Cox?) good enough to cover AJ Green 1-on-1 to free up the obvious run support we need to stop the pounding running game that will come our way?

Sic em
09-03-2009, 05:38 PM
Ah, not to rain on anyone's parade, but... This is the way it will go: After a couple of long TD runs by Richard Samuel in the first quarter, Georgia will slow it down and play ball control. Robinson will be stunned by the speed of our D and will throw a couple of picks in the first half. At halftime it'll be 24-3 Georgia. The second half will be fun but OSU will never threaten. Georgia wins 38-17.

PokesFanatic
09-03-2009, 07:06 PM
Ah, not to rain on anyone's parade, but... This is the way it will go: After a couple of long TD runs by Richard Samuel in the first quarter, Georgia will slow it down and play ball control. Robinson will be stunned by the speed of our D and will throw a couple of picks in the first half. At halftime it'll be 24-3 Georgia. The second half will be fun but OSU will never threaten. Georgia wins 38-17.

You obviously haven't watched enough Cowboy Football! No way does SEC defensive speed break our offense. There are too many options, too many looks, too many chunk plays for it to be that easy. Our O will be giving your D fits all night, whether they are from the SEC or not.

Sic em
09-03-2009, 07:10 PM
You obviously haven't watched enough Cowboy Football! No way does SEC defensive speed break our offense. There are too many options, too many looks, too many chunk plays for it to be that easy. Our O will be giving your D fits all night, whether they are from the SEC or not.

OSU has a good offense, very solid at the skill positions, but I think I heard the same thing two years ago. I know, that's history and doesn't mean squat this week, but just so you don't miss anything, try to keep your eye on #35. That's what I mean by speed. Oh, and Richard Samuel? Not just a big strong back, he's vewy vewy fast, too.

wickerbill
09-03-2009, 07:17 PM
OSU has a good offense, very solid at the skill positions, but I think I heard the same thing two years ago. I know, that's history and doesn't mean squat this week, but just so you don't miss anything, try to keep your eye on #35. That's what I mean by speed. Oh, and Richard Samuel? Not just a big strong back, he's vewy vewy fast, too.

If you're basing your opinion on our offense in Athens two years ago, you're in for a big surprise.

Sic em
09-03-2009, 07:27 PM
If you're basing your opinion on our offense in Athens two years ago, you're in for a big surprise.

No, I wouldn't do that. I know you're much more talented than you were two years ago, but I think the outcome will be similar. I don't mean to sound cocky, I'm just fired up. This week is like the week before Christmas when I was a kid. College football is kicking off tonight, my boys play a solid Big 12 team in two days, and I've got the grill ready to go for a long holiday weekend. Forget the economy, it's college football season, baby! Go Dawgs! And we can shake hands here even if the somewhat quirky OSU coach is afraid one of our players might pimp slap one of yours in a pregame shake.

Verb
09-03-2009, 07:43 PM
Thanks for the breakdown, Coach. I always enjoy your game analysis.

And welcome to our site, Sic em. Glad you found us for a little pre-game banter!

(Sure hope you'll have to come back and eat a little crow, but I guess we'll all know the answer come Saturday!)

FloridaPoke
09-03-2009, 08:04 PM
Sic em:

Please, for the love of God, could I have one Georgia fan answer a very simple question:

If a player in the Big 12 runs a 4.4 40, and a player in the SEC runs a 4.4 40.....how in holy hell is the SEC's 4.4 faster than the Big 12's 4.4.

I'll take that question off the air please.

Sic em
09-03-2009, 08:12 PM
Sic em:

Please, for the love of God, could I have one Georgia fan answer a very simple question:

If a player in the Big 12 runs a 4.4 40, and a player in the SEC runs a 4.4 40.....how in holy hell is the SEC's 4.4 faster than the Big 12's 4.4.

I'll take that question off the air please.

It's team speed, FP, team speed, baby. No difference in a foot race, but this ain't a foot race.

FloridaPoke
09-03-2009, 08:17 PM
It's team speed, FP, team speed, baby. No difference in a foot race, but this ain't a foot race.


So if everyone on both sides of the ball are equally as fast, somehow the SEC team speed is still faster? Here's the real answer I posted a week ago.
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This just in:
The SEC.......is where the 4.5 linebackers are the fastest 4.5 linebackers in the world......somehow even faster than 4.4 linebackers from other regions of the US.

Scientists, however, believe it might just have something to do with how slow the brains work in the region, making things as mundane as linebacker speed seem faster than they really are. Dr. Joe Bob Quirk, University of Georgia quantum physics professor, explained,
"I would describe the phenomenon like this. It's like why our teenage pregnancy rate is the highest in the country. By the time a girl can say Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo[takes a breath]ooooooooooooooooo,
it's just too darned late and the linebacker has planted his seed. While he is, in fact, fast in a copulation sense, he isn't faster than others in the region.....but to a Southeast girl it just seems like it."

Renowned sports psychologists have often described the phenomenon where the game "slows down" for the best athletes on the playing field, as if they are running full tilt while the game around them slows down so they can react quicker and make better decisions. It is much like how slow everything becomes when someone experiences a near death experience. However, Dr. Quirk is in the middle of a ObamaStimulus funded research project to determine why in the Southeast it is the fans who experience the "slow down" and not the players on the field who are in the heat of the battle.

One hypothesis is that human brains have fast twitch and slow twitch cells just like all other muscles in the body. But in the Southeast, all of the fast twitch brain cells are used up on "too late" snappy comebacks on opposing teams message boards. This, in turn, confuses even the slow twitch cells and causes the entire world around them to slow down, even when they are stationary in their seats in a football stadium.

When asked why only the players these people root for seem fast, and not the opposing team's players, Dr. Quirk said, "Once the surrounding world slows down that much, it is simply impossible to focus on anything but what your parents and friends have told you since you were very young. And the need to live vicariously through others and the past is amplified exponentially".

osupride97
09-03-2009, 08:38 PM
Thanks Coach - nice write up.

What I want to see, when our D takes the field, is come out firing, rattle Cox from the first possession. Shake him up like they did with OU in 2002. I'll never forget how fired up the team was that game.

We need momentum the entire game. Never give it up!

GO POKES !!!!!

Sic em
09-03-2009, 08:46 PM
Wow, FP, you wrote that a week ago and haven't thought to improve on it? You know, I was staying away from the regional and state insults. My mom, God rest her soul, taught me better manners than that. I know some good people from Oklahoma and I wouldn't think to insult them by trying to insult the entire state. But when our boys lay the wood on yours, I'll remember your post and have a good laugh at your expense.

Sic em
09-03-2009, 08:52 PM
Thanks Coach - nice write up.

What I want to see, when our D takes the field, is come out firing, rattle Cox from the first possession. Shake him up like they did with OU in 2002. I'll never forget how fired up the team was that game.

We need momentum the entire game. Never give it up!

GO POKES !!!!!

You OSU folks seem kinda focused on Cox. I hope the D is, too, because while they're trying to rattle Cox, Richard Samuel will run right past them. Stay focused on Cox, please. Try to rattle the fifth year senior. After we run up about 200 yards on the ground, Cox will stand in the pocket and pick apart the secondary and A.J. Green will burn it up.

JimBob
09-03-2009, 08:53 PM
Wow, FP, you wrote that a week ago and haven't thought to improve on it? You know, I was staying away from the regional and state insults. My mom, God rest her soul, taught me better manners than that. I know some good people from Oklahoma and I wouldn't think to insult them by trying to insult the entire state. But when our boys lay the wood on yours, I'll remember your post and have a good laugh at your expense.

And the class comes out.:vomit-smiley-001:

FloridaPoke
09-03-2009, 09:12 PM
Wow, FP, you wrote that a week ago and haven't thought to improve on it? You know, I was staying away from the regional and state insults. My mom, God rest her soul, taught me better manners than that. I know some good people from Oklahoma and I wouldn't think to insult them by trying to insult the entire state. But when our boys lay the wood on yours, I'll remember your post and have a good laugh at your expense.

Sic em:

This site isn't rivals or scout or any other national site where Ga people are allowed to come over here and start crap. It is a local only site of people who won't tolerate the trash talk. I only posted humor about the hilarious team speed disparity to let you know the crap isn't welcome here.

Please look at all posts by FirstDawgHere, a very classy Ga fan, who has not only made many friends in a very short period of time, but I am 100% sure the tailgates he has been invited to will seal him forever as an OSU fan (when Georgia isn't involved of course).

If you want to get into threads like exist on rivals free boards, that is great and you should do that.

But not here.

Want to talk real fundamentals like Coach tried to with the start of this thread? You are welcome. Want to have some fun with some pretty funny people, without trash? You are welcome.

But if all you got is we are going to succomb to a beat down because of SEC team speed and Big 12 players are walking around in mud, then no thanks.

It's ok if you are confident in a win...........as long as you come back with class IF (and we all know here it is an if) your team loses.

Sic em
09-03-2009, 09:19 PM
FP, now you want to tell me what this site is about after insulting the state of Georgia? You make up the rules here? And by the way, what crap did I start? Some friendly banter is what I came here for, not to be insulted and then told I can't respond. You do a disservice to the other OSU fans. Why don't you follow your own advice and stop whining. Grow up, little man.

FloridaPoke
09-03-2009, 09:28 PM
FP, now you want to tell me what this site is about after insulting the state of Georgia? You make up the rules here? And by the way, what crap did I start? Some friendly banter is what I came here for, not to be insulted and then told I can't respond. You do a disservice to the other OSU fans. Why don't you follow your own advice and stop whining. Grow up, little man.

:)

I'll let others decide while I am waiting to hear an explanation as to how 11 players on one side of the ball have "identical clock speed" to the 11 players on the other side of the ball....and can be so much faster or slower based on the conference (or region) they play in. Is it coaching? Do Big 12 coaches simply not know how to coach players of identical speed ability?

Sic em
09-03-2009, 09:35 PM
I guess I missed the memo stating that the teams had "identical clock speed". If I'd have known that, well, I guess I wouldn't have said anything. My bad. "Identical clock speed", huh? Dang, that changes everything. I'll text Rennie Curran and tell him the videos must be doctored and he isn't really blowing by everyone to make that tackle in the backfield.

FloridaPoke
09-03-2009, 09:42 PM
And by the way, what crap did I start?

And we can shake hands here even if the somewhat quirky OSU coach is afraid one of our players might pimp slap one of yours in a pregame shake.

Why don't you follow your own advice and stop whining. Grow up, little man.


Sir, my post that offended you was obviously a tongue in cheek response to the Super Man faster than a speeding bullet team speed that exists in the SEC and nowhere else. If you can't discern the tongue in cheek, then my post about brain speed stands on its own without tongue or cheek.

Sic em
09-03-2009, 09:51 PM
FP, you backpeddle faster than a politician. I didn't know that bringing up Grundy's quirks was starting crap, but I guess it's in the eye of the reader. I guess that somehow justifies your post about the overall intelligence of the people of Georgia, as well as the morals of the ladies of the state, which you now claim to be "tongue in cheek". Have it your way, FP. I'll make my exit. And for the other OSU fans who read this thread, I know you're not all like this cat.

FloridaPoke
09-03-2009, 09:55 PM
I guess I missed the memo stating that the teams had "identical clock speed". If I'd have known that, well, I guess I wouldn't have said anything. My bad. "Identical clock speed", huh? Dang, that changes everything. I'll text Rennie Curran and tell him the videos must be doctored and he isn't really blowing by everyone to make that tackle in the backfield.

Well, if that is true, and ole Rennie is a one man recking crew that is so much faster than anyone else, did he simply over-pursue against non SEC GaTech? What about at a very average LSU team last year. I can understand against Florida. They were just better than anyone last year.

FloridaPoke
09-03-2009, 09:59 PM
FP, you backpeddle faster than a politician. I didn't know that bringing up Grundy's quirks was starting crap, but I guess it's in the eye of the reader. I guess that somehow justifies your post about the overall intelligence of the people of Georgia, as well as the morals of the ladies of the state, which you now claim to be "tongue in cheek". Have it your way, FP. I'll make my exit. And for the other OSU fans who read this thread, I know you're not all like this cat.

No, sir. I have read for a month now Ga fans being the most amazingly rude people I've ever encountered (sans FirstDawgHere). And I have realized one thing. You guys can dish it out, but you can't take it. Maybe you are different, but "You Cat's" seem to thrive on BS. If you exit, I am glad.

osupride97
09-03-2009, 10:09 PM
You OSU folks seem kinda focused on Cox. I hope the D is, too, because while they're trying to rattle Cox, Richard Samuel will run right past them. Stay focused on Cox, please. Try to rattle the fifth year senior. After we run up about 200 yards on the ground, Cox will stand in the pocket and pick apart the secondary and A.J. Green will burn it up.

I didn't say stay focused on Cox. I said come out like the team did against OU back in 2001. They rattled the QB from the get go and never let up.

Stay classy SEC!

AnniePokely
09-03-2009, 10:42 PM
LMAO..


JohnnyB, I should have known that was you!


Sic em is a very good friend of mine folks. He's doing nothing but yanking everyones chain..he's really a good guy.

If he starts bashing our Pokes, feel free to dogpile him.

Sic em
09-03-2009, 10:46 PM
Annie! LOL Figures it's you making the rules. But I gotta know, how is he right on the money? He insults the state of Georgia and I'm the bad guy? You were the one I was refering to when I said "good people from Oklahoma", by the way. I didn't start any crap, read all the posts. I avoid insults usually, but he started with the insults and I got a little ticked off. My apologies to anyone I offended, with the exception of FP, of course. How you doing, lady?

AnniePokely
09-03-2009, 10:49 PM
Simple. He's a Poke and you're not.



:fail:

Sic em
09-03-2009, 10:51 PM
I'm a Poke when y'all aren't playing Georgia :-)

AnniePokely
09-03-2009, 10:55 PM
Well, we're playing now, and until saturday night, you're the enemy..LOL


http://www.ostatesports.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=190&d=1252036412

Sic em
09-03-2009, 10:57 PM
Oh, it's on. I'm so fired up for college football, I actually enjoyed the SC-NC State game tonight, even though it was a yawner. I think we'll see some fireworks on Saturday, though. It can't get here quick enough.

AnniePokely
09-03-2009, 11:04 PM
We're going to the game afterall. Mom decided SHE was NOT sitting at home. We've gone back and forth for two weeks over it. First we decided yes, then no, and finally yes. It will be a chore, but she's excited, so i'm excited for her.


Here's to a hard fought game with no injuries. I wish ya luck in every game but this one.


:pete::pete::pete::pete::pete:

Sic em
09-03-2009, 11:09 PM
I'm glad your mom's feeling well enough to make the trip. I wish I was going to be there, but I've got a pretty good Plan B. Hanging with one of my oldest and best pals here, gonna fire up the grill and have a little party. I'll look for you on TV. You'll be the one wearing orange, right?

FirstDawgHere
09-03-2009, 11:38 PM
Sic em:

Please, for the love of God, could I have one Georgia fan answer a very simple question:

If a player in the Big 12 runs a 4.4 40, and a player in the SEC runs a 4.4 40.....how in holy hell is the SEC's 4.4 faster than the Big 12's 4.4.

I'll take that question off the air please.

You're right, there is no difference.

Having scouted football players across the country, I will say this though: The only difference in speed is across the defensive line. That discrepancy only lies with North and South however.

OSU recruits Texas and there is no difference between Southeast kids and Texas recruits. Although, OSU hasn't gotten the top Lone Star kids until recently.

That's my piece on the subject.

57cowboy
09-04-2009, 07:02 AM
we run east and west

CoachOSU
09-04-2009, 08:46 AM
Sorry for the delayed response... had JV games last night to coach and then had to watch some ole Boise State vs. Oregon.....

I do think we have the competitive DB's to be able to contain Green... for THREE REASONS- 1. Parrish Cox-- has become a stud of an athlete and can shut down some good DB's 2. Our LB's can get pressure on Cox 3. Bill Young.. he will have the troops ready.. i really respect him as a D-Coordinator

As far as Sic 'em... most UGA fans are good people.. i have a feeling he is too... just doing what we do to OU/TEXAS/etc.... getting them agitated (spelling?)

pistolpete2002
09-04-2009, 08:54 AM
Ah, not to rain on anyone's parade, but... This is the way it will go: After a couple of long TD runs by Richard Samuel in the first quarter, Georgia will slow it down and play ball control. Robinson will be stunned by the speed of our D and will throw a couple of picks in the first half. At halftime it'll be 24-3 Georgia. The second half will be fun but OSU will never threaten. Georgia wins 38-17.


I don't see UGA scoring 24 the entire game. It took them until the end of the 3rd quarter to get their first TD against MSU in their bowl game last year and that was WITH Moreno and Stafford!!!!

osupsycho
09-04-2009, 09:12 AM
Yeah if UGA is planning on just grounding it out slowly then they may find themselves in a deep hole fast. I just don't see our explosive offense AND special teams being held in check for long unless there are injuries or turnovers. There are just to many weapons with to many touches to be stopped (slowed down yes but not stopped). My concern is that UGA will go to Green early and often and we could be in trouble if our defensive backfield isn't up to it.

BigBadBen
09-04-2009, 09:14 AM
The dogs will be playing catchup all day.

Verb
09-04-2009, 01:43 PM
As far as Sic 'em... most UGA fans are good people.. i have a feeling he is too... just doing what we do to OU/TEXAS/etc.... getting them agitated (spelling?)

Yep!

Trash talk--a cherished college football tradition! :D

BigBadBen
09-04-2009, 02:03 PM
We will be serving UGA frie's following the game!

CanadianCowboy
09-04-2009, 05:48 PM
Ah, not to rain on anyone's parade, but... This is the way it will go: After a couple of long TD runs by Richard Samuel in the first quarter, Georgia will slow it down and play ball control. Robinson will be stunned by the speed of our D and will throw a couple of picks in the first half. At halftime it'll be 24-3 Georgia. The second half will be fun but OSU will never threaten. Georgia wins 38-17.

I think that in this thread, Coach has got it dead-on. I also think that sick 'em has got the scores right. Only problem is that sick 'em is either a dumb dawg or dawgslexic...the halftime score may just be 24-3, but it will be the Cowboys putting the .44 slug in that dawg's a$$. Then the second half will be a howl because UGA never threatens. My crystal ball tells me that sick 'em got the score right, but it will be the Pokes 38-17 and the dawgs get the dawg hair kicked off their dawg-tired dawg-tails. Then they'll head down I-35 to catch the first DawgAir flight back to the safety of their SEC backyard, where all good dawgs should stay anyway. :cowboy::pete:

Oh yeah, Coach...I also agree with your statement about Coach Young...he'll have the D-Boys amped up and crankin' ready...these SEC clowns only THINK they know what a wood-layin' is. They're about to go to school...:ph34r: